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Old 09-29-2017, 04:17 PM
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Why would the molding for the Pig be troublesome? Or do you just mean that they've never been able to make a very good version in premium plastic?
Might have been on the old PDGA boards where Dave talked about it. That first batch for the players pack at the Worlds Feldberg won in Michigan was a blend of Pro plastic that worked really well but they ran out and the next shipment of pellets wasn't the same. Demand was such that they tried different mixes but couldn't get the weight down so they made those Blizzard ones that had way too many x-outs and were pretty domey (have two in my backyard).

So making this Ax3 may be the replacement for a mold that people really liked but was only molding correctly in certain plastics and even then had a ton of 'fallout' from production. Not saying it is, but that seems like a reasonable guess.
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Old 09-29-2017, 04:46 PM
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AviarX3: looks like it might be going after the Zone/Harp slot?

They make it sound pretty OS, but similar grip to Aviar3 means no bead nor thumbtrack.
I'm going to wildly speculate that one reason for making this disc is to give Paul McBeth the overstable approach disc he's been looking for. The Aviar3 didn't work out for Paul, and he's been looking for an OS P2 replacement, apparently, having tried the Star Aviar P&A and Champion Aviar P&A. So maybe the AviarX3 will fit the bill...

(And yes, my wallet will scream but I'll probably try an Ax3.. )
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Old 09-29-2017, 05:19 PM
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What was his reason for ditching the P2 anyway?
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:06 PM
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What was his reason for ditching the P2 anyway?
I never heard one, but there seems to be a tendency for pro players to bag only their company's discs, and move away from partner company discs. Some Trilogy players are going only DD or only Lat64, etc., with Ricky being an exception. Paul McBeth uses the Dismania FD3 but n his commentaries has referred to it only as his "overstable fairway driver".

So I'm thinking that is part of the reason that Paul has moved away from the P2. In addition, he may want an approach disc that is more OS than the P2, like the Harp is for Ricky, etc. The Ax3 just might be that disc for Paul...

(All this is pure speculation. Fun, but merely guesswork.)
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Old 09-29-2017, 08:09 PM
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Side view! way more blunt.

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Old 09-29-2017, 08:10 PM
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Wait left side looks cut off. hmmmm

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Old 09-29-2017, 11:06 PM
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Looks a lot like a Zone. This could be really good......

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Old 09-29-2017, 11:28 PM
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I was thinking how this new Aviar Could be the Driving Aviar, if they made a newer style Classic Aviar in premium plastic but a bit sharper where the wing meets the rest of the disc.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:34 PM
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Looks a lot like a Zone. This could be really good......
I've wanted an "Innova Zone" for quite some time now. I haven't really been interested in the new molds Innova has released the last couple years. This has definitely peaked my interest.

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I've wanted an "Innova Zone" for quite some time now. I haven't really been interested in the new molds Innova has released the last couple years. This has definitely peaked my interest.
With the exception of the ROC 3 have yet to try I have not either in last 2 years.
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