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Random: Do we think we'll get a Halloween Envy again this year with Black rims? I sure hope so, but maybe a FX Proton version?? - I really dig the HAlloween Envy's. I have a couple would like to add to the years - I have a 2017 and a 2016, are they the only runs of these? The Black widow neutron and the Owl Plasma?
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Old 08-30-2018, 09:48 AM
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I carry a lot of putters. Right now it's 2 mcpros, 1 yeti, 1 conrad, 1 luster aviar3, 1 star aviarx3, 1 zone for chipshots and rollers. I like the aviarx3 but I don't love it.

How does an envy compare to any aviarx3? anyone thrown both?
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:59 AM
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I carry a lot of putters. Right now it's 2 mcpros, 1 yeti, 1 conrad, 1 luster aviar3, 1 star aviarx3, 1 zone for chipshots and rollers. I like the aviarx3 but I don't love it.

How does an envy compare to any aviarx3? anyone thrown both?
Experimented for myself. I carry a Luster Aviar3 and a Star Aviarx3 and I grabbed a neutron 160 proton envy. Granted, this is a light disc, but it doesn't feel to be anywhere near as stable as the Aviar3 or the Aviarx3. I'll try another one in max weight, but it compares much more to a Conrad JK Aviar than it does to an Aviar3 or X3

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Old 08-31-2018, 12:10 PM
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Experimented for myself. I carry a Luster Aviar3 and a Star Aviarx3 and I grabbed a neutron 160 proton envy. Granted, this is a light disc, but it doesn't feel to be anywhere near as stable as the Aviar3 or the Aviarx3. I'll try another one in max weight, but it compares much more to a Conrad JK Aviar than it does to an Aviar3 or X3
I have not thrown those Aviars so I can't compare. But the Envy is extremely HSS without as much expected fade to match. It will have a fade, but the harder you throw it the farther it goes. So it's not an OS ranging type disc at all, but it does incredibly well with power and even wind for how straight it is.
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Great thing about the Envy, is how well you can manipulate angles with them. If you throw them hard and flat, they will just lock on target with a late small fade. But throw them the same power with a little height and some hyzer angle and they will do a nice sweeping fade. Soft N Envy FTW
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Old 08-31-2018, 02:30 PM
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So as my Envy has tried to get lost at least 3 times within the last 10 rounds I've played, is there a true OS MVP/Axiom putter? Also are Proxies just Envies with a lower "PLH"?
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Old 08-31-2018, 03:08 PM
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I have not thrown those Aviars so I can't compare. But the Envy is extremely HSS without as much expected fade to match. It will have a fade, but the harder you throw it the farther it goes. So it's not an OS ranging type disc at all, but it does incredibly well with power and even wind for how straight it is.
Interesting, I thought it was an OS ranging type disc. It sounds like what you are saying is that I can mash it harder and harder and it will still keep going straight with fade

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Interesting, I thought it was an OS ranging type disc. It sounds like what you are saying is that I can mash it harder and harder and it will still keep going straight with fade
Yea, its definitely more in the Rhyno style, rather than a Pig. OS but workable. The protons are a little less glidey and easier to range...





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Old 08-31-2018, 04:25 PM
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Interesting, I thought it was an OS ranging type disc. It sounds like what you are saying is that I can mash it harder and harder and it will still keep going straight with fade
Definitely. It's one of the best molds I don't bag because I throw Anode/Ion so I get more normal putter ranging and go with mids from there. Whereas Envy is even faster so it will slide a little more at short ranges compared to a normal depth putter, yet if you hit it hard it will encroach on mids or at minimum go your normal putter distance but with way more confidence and wind resistance. If you put it on hyzer it should hold really well, but if you throw it straight and hard it will fade way less than I expect for the amount of HSS. It's also excellent for straight FH approaches if you're clean.

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Old 08-31-2018, 04:31 PM
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Definitely. It's one of the best molds I don't bag because I throw Anode/Ion so I get more normal putter ranging and go with mids from there. Whereas Envy is even faster so it will slide a little more at short ranges compared to a normal depth putter, yet if you hit it hard it will encroach on mids or at minimum go your normal putter distance but with way more confidence and wind resistance. If you put it on hyzer it should hold really well, but if you throw it straight and hard it will fade way less than I expect for the amount of HSS. It's also excellent for straight FH approaches if you're clean.
Don't get me wrong, I was definitely impressed with it. It was surprising that I could throw it really hard and it would drift slightly but never really turn. I just really like having somehting a bit more OS for upshots so it probably won't see any love and I'll just hold out for stock run aviarx3s. if it ain't broke...

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