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Old 01-01-2019, 01:01 PM
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Eyeballing the approved discs spreadsheet, it does look like the original Raptor mold had it's name changed, clearing the path for Discraft. Not sure if Jamie truly got the short end of the stick, or if the timing was just wrong, or if Discraft was willing to put more resources into getting the Raptor as a mold name. But at this point it's all water under the bridge. Also, RDG did lock down "Velociraptor" as a mold name

I didn't even realize you could "officially" change the name of a mold with the PDGA.
With the announcement of Ricky going to Innova, do you think they'll change the Destroyer to the Destraptor?
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Old 01-01-2019, 01:27 PM
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Make Velociraptors
Have the stamp say “V-Raptor”
You could make the “V” smaller than the “Raptor” too
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Old 01-01-2019, 01:44 PM
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Eyeballing the approved discs spreadsheet, it does look like the original Raptor mold had it's name changed, clearing the path for Discraft. Not sure if Jamie truly got the short end of the stick, or if the timing was just wrong, or if Discraft was willing to put more resources into getting the Raptor as a mold name. But at this point it's all water under the bridge. Also, RDG did lock down "Velociraptor" as a mold name

I didn't even realize you could "officially" change the name of a mold with the PDGA.
With the announcement of Ricky going to Innova, do you think they'll change the Destroyer to the Destraptor?
You can change the name if you pay the pdga some $$$.

Wonder which company will release "the rapture" lol
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Old 01-01-2019, 02:20 PM
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Can you "secure" names in advance?

I mean Discmania had to have "MD5" locked down LONG before they had the disc


Name sequences like Prodigy and Discmania uses depend on the "next number/letter" in the sequence is available
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Old 01-01-2019, 02:29 PM
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You can change the name if you pay the pdga some $$$.

Wonder which company will release "the rapture" lol
With Axioms sins theme, it would fit with them. Although, I doubt any company will go with that name due to the religious connotations.
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Jesus. Y'all will argue endlessly about the minutiae of bull**** like who put anything resembling claw marks on a disc into the ground , and then turn around and call this post petty for what seems to me an obvious issue. Not sure how RPM selling the rights to the name has anything to do with this post as well. It's obvious from the letter that A. The PDGA rejected thier use of the name at the time based on someone else having a similar name. and then B. Later allowed another bigger company to go ahead and use that name. Seems cut and dry.

Not that it really matters much at this point though. It's not a legal issue unless you have $$$, and even then it may not be an issue.

Is it lame of the PDGA ? Sure.

Is it wrong of Jamie to post this? Nah.

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Old 01-03-2019, 09:43 AM
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I think there might be more to this if the email chain wasn't form 3.5 years ago.
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Unicorn would be a good name for a disc. Patent pending.
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:56 AM
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Jesus. Y'all will argue endlessly about the minutiae of bull**** like who put anything resembling claw marks on a disc into the ground , and then turn around and call this post petty for what seems to me an obvious issue. Not sure how RPM selling the rights to the name has anything to do with this post as well. It's obvious from the letter that A. The PDGA rejected thier use of the name at the time based on someone else having a similar name. and then B. Later allowed another bigger company to go ahead and use that name. Seems cut and dry.

Not that it really matters much at this point though. It's not a legal issue unless you have $$$, and even then it may not be an issue.

Is it lame of the PDGA ? Sure.

Is it wrong of Jamie to post this? Nah.
PDGA manufacturer guidelines: https://www.pdga.com/files/pdgatechs...09-21-2018.pdf

"Manufacturers should
review the PDGA Approved Disc list to make sure their proposed disc name will not be too similar to a
previously approved disc made by another manufacturer. The PDGA does not referee name conflicts and
expects the affected manufacturers to resolve naming issues before a new disc can be approved"

Discraft buying the name rights would cover the second part of that.

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Old 01-03-2019, 10:04 AM
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Just trying to get this straight:

- RPM had the "Rapter" and RDG tried to get the "Raptor" approved
- RPM gave approval for RDG using a similar name
- PDGA said "no" anyways because the names were too similar
- A few years later, Discraft worked it out with RPM for them to change the name of the "Rapter" to the "kiwi"
- Now PDGA says "yes" to Discraft's "Raptor" because there's no conflict

Is that pretty much the story? If so, I don't see any foul from anyone. The PDGA was consistent with their decision that two discs with similar names can't be approved. Seems that Jaime (RDG) should have worked with RPM to get their name changed instead of getting email permission. It's not the PDGA's fault that Discraft found their way around the problem.
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