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Old 02-09-2019, 11:05 PM
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Doesn’t the rat have a 1.1 cm rim? How does that have more distance potential than a Gator? Just the stability?

I wouldn’t expect a rat to keep up with my Colts much less my Rocs.
The Rat may not be long enough, then. So my next suggestions are the Commander (speed 5) and the Ram, speed 6, overstable, and an oldie brought back from the dead.

I'm not sure which is longer between the Caiman and the Gator/3...
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Old 02-09-2019, 11:45 PM
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Gator and Caiman fly similar distances for me. Caiman maybe a tick longer only because it will turn over / flex a little more than a Gator. But they are really, really close. Both significantly shorter than a Roc.
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:30 AM
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Gator and Caiman fly similar distances for me. Caiman maybe a tick longer only because it will turn over / flex a little more than a Gator. But they are really, really close. Both significantly shorter than a Roc.
Does the Gator3 add any distance? Or do I just need another viper.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:32 AM
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Quick question: I want an OS compliment to my Rocs but gators were always a hair too short for the job. Would a Caiman or a Gator3 be better at the OS Roc spot? Or are they still not a great fit?

(I hate the roc3x btw)
The most obvious answer to your question is the Millennium Taurus. More overstable than that, and the only molds left are beaded Gator variations.

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Old 02-10-2019, 07:27 AM
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Doesn’t the rat have a 1.1 cm rim? How does that have more distance potential than a Gator? Just the stability?

I wouldn’t expect a rat to keep up with my Colts much less my Rocs.
Stability difference. Rat is like a failed Zone.
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Old 02-10-2019, 07:51 AM
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I'm excited to see the things that Sexton will do with this disc.

Would also love to see what Ricky could do with it. Have to imagine he's at least tested it out while figuring out his new Innova bag.

If Jerm's name wasn't already on the Mortar, this sounds like a disc that he'd like, too.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:47 PM
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I'm excited to see the things that Sexton will do with this disc.

Would also love to see what Ricky could do with it. Have to imagine he's at least tested it out while figuring out his new Innova bag.

If Jerm's name wasn't already on the Mortar, this sounds like a disc that he'd like, too.
Yeah the Mortar and Caiman are very similar disc imo. Both low profile os mids that pretty much cover the same shots. I've in the past used both. I liked the Caiman slightly better because I could get a bit more distance out of it.
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:00 PM
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I also feel Caiman is bit longer than Gators, Gator3s and Mortars. Last season I bagged all four, cause could’nt decide which is best for me.

Years I’ve bag FAF Gator, but now I’m probably go with Mortar or Caiman because of no bead and therefore easier release.

Difference between Recon Mortar and Star Caiman aint big. Caiman is a tiny bit faster and with slightly harder fade.

For me shortest to longest:
FAF Champ Gator
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:02 PM
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The Rat may not be long enough, then. So my next suggestions are the Commander (speed 5) and the Ram, speed 6, overstable, and an oldie brought back from the dead.

I'm not sure which is longer between the Caiman and the Gator/3...
The Commander is such an odd disc one has to find a fit for the odd flight path for the disc to work in anybody's game. I have thrown one once, it flew bad and to reviews it still does.

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Old 02-10-2019, 10:56 PM
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I guess, but beads ain't great for FH. Doesn't mean people don't throw them but they don't feel right. Zone is the gold standard for FH approach. Not even close.
While I'd rather forehand a Buzzz than a Roc, a Gator gives me zero problems. Their head is no more noticeable to me than the micro-bead on a Harp. And a Gator has much more resistance to turn than a Zone. And still works just as well on my backhand. And does thumbers better. So, for me, the Gator beats the **** out of the Zone. Not even close.
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