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Old 02-21-2019, 02:59 PM
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You are shifting "from in front of you" instead of "from behind you".
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:40 PM
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Paul McBeth recently in Wintertime Open 2019.
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Old 02-22-2019, 05:48 AM
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Old 02-22-2019, 03:47 PM
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UE...xRFDRllMPahxJM

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yu...Kc-DVQV6elxMiF


Here is today's drives, it was very wet so I wasn't out long, these aren't particularly warmed up throws. I was stepping and weight shifting around my room last night and I found that if I focused on trying to shift from behind, and doing the motion from the SC video, I would end up getting my weight on my right foot, but I would be sort of pushing off my back heel, which I recall being a bad thing. It then hit me that I have been standing sort of evenly balanced between the ball of my feet, and my heel, and that when I start moving, my weight really started moving backwards onto my heels. So I started focusing on keeping my heels almost off the ground and having my weight on my toes, which caused me to naturally lean over a little bit.

I also was still trying to shift from behind instead of from in front, and I was also trying to keep my hips closed until I landed and then throw. In the past though when I try to change too many things I end up doing the same stuff as before, so the only thing that I can be sure of is that I am up on my toes in these two videos.

I was also hoping I could get SW to explain what you are seeing that lets you know I am shifting from in front instead of from behind. I was really focusing on shifting from behind in these videos, and it felt like I was doing it, but I don't know from watching the videos if I really am. I would like to be able to start recording myself in the field and then correcting things just from watching those recordings on the spot, but I need to know what to look for. I appreciate the continued help everyone.
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Old 02-22-2019, 04:25 PM
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You're still shifting in front, just waiting longer to do it. It'll be a fundamental feel difference.

This is why one leg drill is good, you can't push your body off the rear foot in one leg drill.

The main difference is you are pushing your body off the left leg, clockwise or in front of the plant leg. Drew Gibson is moving laterally, catching is weight, and using that to turn the torso.

Pushing yourself into rotation is why your throwing arm collapses.



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Old 02-22-2019, 05:48 PM
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Yeah, it's going to feel very different. Your head and spine/swing plane is aligned to your rear leg axis of rotation, instead of the front leg axis of rotation and swing plane.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D4_tDZjX1w&t=450s



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Old 02-22-2019, 09:27 PM
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I'm at work right now and so I haven't watched the attached videos, but I think I can see what you guys are seeing a little bit now. If my spine is angled towards the target then I'm pushing off the left, but if I can get angled like paul is there, then that's more like me building momentum and then landing on the right.

So by that logic, I feel like moving faster in my x step and building more momentum would help me feel this easier. However conventional wisdom is that moving faster in the x step tends to throw things off. What would you guys suggest with that?
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Old 02-22-2019, 10:08 PM
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You feel like you have to speed up to do it because you are not balanced on either leg properly.

You should be able to do it in slow motion:





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Old 02-22-2019, 11:30 PM
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Yeah it's a fundamental balance change...going faster will NOT make it easier.

But definitely try to feel some flow and balance when you keep adjusting things, don't turn into a robot.
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Old 02-23-2019, 03:50 AM
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