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Old 09-05-2018, 09:25 AM
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Kinda depends on the course and the group I guess ,I like the idea of paying in twice to the ace pot for Cali... our course has a lottttt of short 170' holes especially on the original nine.. We have an ace pot up at $250+ right now giving some of us with a rocket arm and doubles of a mold an advantage to grab that money would make it an unpopular ace. That's an advantage that maybe five out of the 25 players could use to cash in.
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Old 09-05-2018, 03:42 PM
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Everybody gets 18/36/54/ect. chances. Those playing on have already had their chances. Ace pot throw off for everyone who paid into the pot.
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Old 09-05-2018, 03:53 PM
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I'd like to add that ACE pot throw offs should not be for the entire pot. All those that paid in get a chance in the throw off. Locally we do 50% 30% 20% for the top 3 or top 2 if it's a charity event with 50% going to the charity. I like to give a nice gentle downhill throw-off shot in the ~150ft range. I let the player throw 2 shots each but only 1 counts. This is my job at our local tournaments to run the after round games to keep the players out of the TD's hair while he does payouts. I do this and ring of fire and generally can eat up 45 mins to an hour while play-offs and payouts are done.

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Old 09-05-2018, 03:57 PM
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We just do a ctp if nobody aces. I like your idea though with the 50/30/20.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:13 PM
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An ace in a playoff has always been a ‘no’ for tournaments I’ve run. It’s an extra hole that not everyone was able to play.

But I do state that for an ace pot throw off that an ace takes it all if I’m paying out multiple places.
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:44 AM
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A counterargument for paying the ace in a playoff might be:

(1) The odds of an ace on a given hole or couple of holes are quite small, so the guys in a playoff are only given, what, 2% more opportunity than everyone else.
(2) They earned that opportunity by outplaying everyone else.
(3) If everyone else played the complete event, but didn't get an ace, they have little to complain about. (If it's splitting the pot between multiple aces, maybe they do).

I don't know; I wouldn't have objections to the TDs decision, either way.

It's certainly a good idea to state the rule in advance, though.

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Old 09-12-2018, 11:38 AM
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I'd vote no, like others. It's not an equal opportunity for everyone else in the pot.

Would a solution be, after the hole is played out (as per the playoff), give everyone else in the pot a chance at the "aced" hole (not unlike everyone playing a CTP after the round if no one gets an ace)?

It would reward the individual for hitting the impressive ace in a clutch situation, and solve the dispute that not everyone gets an equal opportunity.

I see the reverse to this argument, also... Clearly, odds are the person who got the ace will take it down...

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Old 09-12-2018, 12:23 PM
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Would a solution be, after the hole is played out (as per the playoff), give everyone else in the pot a chance at the "aced" hole (not unlike everyone playing a CTP after the round if no one gets an ace)?
That's not a bad idea. Everyone else would be free to run it---without regards to what happens if they overshoot---but of course the likelihood is that when the dust clears, the playoff guy will walk away with the money.
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(2) They earned that opportunity by outplaying everyone else.
But an outright winner wouldn't 'earn' extra goes. And that is a better achievment than tieing. You are playing against the course, so tieing is more accidental than earnt. And no one is aiming to tie.

I like the clean lines simplicity of everyone plays the same holes for the ace pot. But saying that, I haven't been playing long, only thrown (fluked) one ace, haven't tied for first in anything for a long while, and haven't been denied an ace pot in a play off. So I'll be intrigued by my opinion when I do.

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Old 09-12-2018, 01:57 PM
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Good point. OK, that extra opportunity was obtained with skill (no playoff for 8th place ties) and luck (someone else shot the exact same good score, so not alone in 1st).

The value of the extra opportunity is very small---it's a very small chance they'll get an ace---so I wouldn't mind, whether the TD allow sit or not.

I can only recall seeing it happen one time, myself, and that was probably 20 years ago, so I don't remember what was done with the ace pool. But at the time it was a small ace pool---weekly doubles, unwon ace pools went to the club---so probably not a lot of debate on it, either.
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