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Old 05-02-2017, 05:01 PM
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My Rocstikas are bright green and pink. They feel exactly the same

SaROCaM, there are PLENTY of Champ Ranchos out there in the $20-$25 range. I have rolled with a Champ Rancho and 2-3 KC and DX Rocs for a long time. Work great, for me.
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:13 PM
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DX Rancho Roc - 1 degree inner rim slant
Star Rancho Roc - 4.5 degrees
DX Roc 3 4 degrees
Champ Roc 3 - 5.5 degrees
Champ RocX3 - 5.5 degrees
R-Pro Roc+ - 13.5 degrees
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Champ Rancho Roc 2008 Japan Open - 2 degrees
12x KC Pro Rancho Roc - 2 degrees

My DX Ranchos are consistently 1 degree regardless of age. I haven't measured all of them... I think I have about 30. I don't have too many non-DX Rocs because DX is just too tasty.
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:37 PM
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so ranchos have more beef?
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Old 05-02-2017, 11:58 PM
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so ranchos have more beef?
It seems like opinions are a little divided on that issue. Some people have said yes and some people no. My read is that the RocX3 has more fade than a Rancho, but some people are saying it has less high speed stability, maybe a little turn when thrown into a headwind or with a forehand. Maybe I've got that wrong though.

Hey ORDB, I know you hate the plus rims, but have you thrown yours? What do you say on the stability front? RocX3 more or less HSS for you than your champ Ranchos?
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:28 PM
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Havent throw one. Maybe I will. Not really liking the feel.

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Old 05-03-2017, 12:43 PM
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i've thrown a rocX3 and 2016 lucha usdgc champ rancho roc.

rocX3 is flat like a buzzz OS easy to sidearm. the rancho roc has that roc dome (2016 usdgc less so) and bead.

both are very similar in flight in that they're in between a roc and gator in stability.

2016 usdgc champ rancho roc has more glidey and sweeping hyzer flight while rocX3 has a faster flight has a more low speed dump.

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Old 05-03-2017, 12:46 PM
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so ranchos have more beef?
I haven't done a ton of field testing with mine but it appears to be the same HSS as my premium plastic Ranchos but more fade. This gives the appearance of being more overall overstable (HSS) but in reality I think mine are about the same.

The one time I used it in a round it did exactly what it needed to. It went straight and hung out over OB for almost the entire flight. At the end it hooked up and came back safely in bounds exactly where I wanted it. A fresh DX or KC would not have had this much fade. I don't have a good enough feel on the Star Rancho to say if it would have made the shot but I don't think it would have.

RocX3 and Premium Rocs (that I've thrown) are more similar than different. I believe the RocX3 is slightly more OS but not drastically more OS.

So far the disc is doing what I want and feels like a normal Champ Roc. But it doesn't get very much air time when normal Rocs are so awesome.

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3-7 is pretty typical draft for injection molded plastics with a vertical surface, to help with mold release and tool life.

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Old 05-03-2017, 01:04 PM
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My hunch is that the mold they used for the DX Rocs has a 1 degree draft. That's really about as little draft as you want in a high volume mold.

I would have expected closer to two because of the longevity issues you mentioned.

EDIT: Stardoggy, if you don't mind me asking, what's your connection to the injection molding world?

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Stardoggy, if you don't mind me asking, what's your connection to the injection molding world?
I give *doggy's mom so much injection. hot. beef. injection.
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