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Old 03-01-2011, 11:01 PM
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how's the dome on the gl havocs?
Not obscene, but not flat. It appears to have less of a dome than the Opto Flow but close to the same as a Star Vulcan, just with a smoother line. Those were the only two discs I had handy because they are close to the same stability.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:03 PM
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Not obscene, but not flat. It appears to have less of a dome than the Opto Flow but close to the same as a Star Vulcan, just with a smoother line. Those were the only two discs I had handy because they are close to the same stability.
thanks for the info. what color(s) do you have? anyone know if different colors are flatter than others?
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:15 AM
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I have the sparkly candy orange/red and a solid blue. I do not have enough throws on them today to tell you if they seemed different because of color. The one that stalled on me was the blue one, but it could be that I just did not give it enough torque when I forced it into a high anhyzer. The wind, going from right to left, definitely took it for a ride into the next county. The red one instantly turned and burned in a headwind, barely making it to 250'.

During the winter my range is reduced from 400 down to 340-360. My best shot of the day was with the red one making 370 and just left of the basket. Practice throws earlier in the round yielded results again within my average 340-360, so I am excited about what this disc can do in the summer when I am back up to 400.

If there was anything that I can comment on after just one round is that the Havoc was what I was hoping the Flow could be. The Flow was suppose to be the River but for maximum distance. I truly believe the Opto River is one of the best, if not the best, disc ever made. Yet if I give the Flow maximum distance power, it becomes rather unpredictable, the Gold Line more so than the Opto Flow. The Havoc definitely handled far better and more predictably when given more power. It still will take some time getting used to how much the Havoc flips up and at what direction I need to aim it at in order for it to fade onto the basket, but this initial round was far more promising than disappointing.

Then again, I really liked the Star Vulcan after just one round of field throwing. I am willing to replace the Vulcan in my bag because the Havoc seemed to not flip up as quickly, thus being a little more forgiving if I really lay into it and do not want it to flip over, but I am currently not willing to pull out the Nukes yet because I did not get a chance to see how well the Havocs can hold a high arcing anhyzer line for distance. One throw it held a low line drive anhyzer really well, giving it just enough to turn right without flipping over, but the only throw I got into the sky like I mentioned earlier turned into a kite in the wind.

Lastly, due to reduced distance in the winter, I had several shots today at BRP where I would normally throw a mid but due to distances and unsure footing in the snow I had to go with drivers for several stand-and-deliver second shots. Normally I turned to the River but there was this one shot on Hole 7 where I still had 300+ feet left to go. From a stand-and-deliver the Havoc flew true the whole way, taking a run at the basket. Its straight glide is amazing, most likely staying that straight more so from its speed and not necessarily from its neutral stability.
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Old 03-02-2011, 01:10 AM
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I got the 169 pearly white gl havoc today and played a round of 36 but only throw it about eight times or so. I didn't get to experiment like I normally do with new discs but there's next week. Compared to my 170 opto, I don't find it anymore stable, in fact, it's a tad less stable. It's easier for me to hyzer flip the gl. Great glide and easy distance of course. Mid March is when I'll really have more time to test it on different line, until then, I'm liking it.
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:52 PM
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Just got my Pain in the mail today. Going to play Deer lakes tomorrow, hopefully will get a good review of it afterwords
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:57 PM
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Can I get some different reviews on how the pain holds up to 20-25 mph head wind. My super roc flips to straight/goes slightly right before barely fading in these situations and always leaves my out right.
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:35 AM
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Can I get some different reviews on how the pain holds up to 20-25 mph head wind. My super roc flips to straight/goes slightly right before barely fading in these situations and always leaves my out right.
Great question, I know my old Drone could handle it. I recently got a 177 Opto Pain, I like it so far.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:31 AM
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Can I get some different reviews on how the pain holds up to 20-25 mph head wind. My super roc flips to straight/goes slightly right before barely fading in these situations and always leaves my out right.
The first week I got my 176 opto and gl, I played in my winter weekly leagues and it was windy (20-25mph with gust around 35). Both discs handled the wind impressively - I was actually surprised. I released it both with slight hyzer and also flat. They both seem equally stable but I've always favored gl and that's why it's in my bag.
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Old 03-12-2011, 01:02 AM
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I want a straight dose of Pain, which plastic/weight of Pain do you guys think will give me a fairly straight Pain?

Has anybody thrown some ~165 Pains much? Sloppy, you've got some right?
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:04 AM
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My 174 is a straight flyer when thrown with lots of snap. It will also hold a beautiful hyzer line when "told" to do so. I like to stay 7-10 grams away from max weight for straighter flights but 174 was the best I could do at my local shop. I like the Core on a hyzer flip line for straight shots with a soft landing. Seems to stay in the landing zone where as the pain will come in hard sometimes and skip away.
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