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Old 11-30-2019, 07:41 AM
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I do not think the value of spectators is worth the loss of course quality.
Perhaps subject to whether the goal is more fun, or more money.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:29 AM
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I do not think the value of spectators is worth the loss of course quality.
Sure. If we’re all just going to be watching from home, play every Worlds at Brewster. But having spectated at Brewster, it was a significantly worse experience than spectating at Fox Run.

On the final hole of Worlds two years ago, #18 at Fox Run, Barsby basically just needed to land in bounds off the tee to win. The OB road was lined with spectators, most of whom were screaming for his drive to sit and stay in after it landed. It was a great experience, on par with my favorite previous in-person sports experiences. #18 at Brewster, on the other hand, is a partially blind tee shot over a huge bush to a guarded green with no clear sight line.

I don’t think a sporting organization should be knowingly limiting the in-person fan experience unless the organization has decided purposefully to keep the sport “small.”

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Old 11-30-2019, 11:27 PM
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I don’t think a sporting organization should be knowingly limiting the in-person fan experience unless the organization has decided purposefully to keep the sport “small.”
Only a minute amount of people spectate live at any sporting events verse taking them in via media. Those few people are not the ones that should be catered to if you are trying to move the needle away from the sport remaining "small".

IMO, the loss in course quality and the experience of the other 99.99% of people who watch from home would do more harm than good.

You are advocating for the experience of a few thousand (Maybe a few hundred) over a tens of thousands. I do not think you are considering the bigger picture here.

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Old 12-01-2019, 12:01 AM
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The more potential spectators the better. YouTube may get more views, but the PDGA needs to consider live spectators over after the fact eyeballs if it wants to grow.
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:05 AM
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I agree with the idea of having at least one of the World's courses being in the woods...

It is real disc golf, in my opinion....

I spectated every round of the last two World's....and often udisc scored groups...

I enjoyed spectating Brewster much more than Fox Run...you can find places, especially if you are ahead of the group instead of behind them on the tee to see the action...yes, 18 at Fox Run is a better finishing hole...but not a better course to watch...

Northwoods was so much better to watch than Eureka this year (it is an amazing course, especially hole 12)...in person, as a spectator...it was night and day...you just have to plan your spots and not be in the mass behind the players in the woods...

I'm still trying to decide between World's and Idlewild as my second event to spectate in 2020...Green Mountain will be on the agenda, I loved World's there so much that I drove up there again this year from Buffalo, NY to spectate at that amazing Smuggs facility again...

The golf course in Ogden is bad, just bad disc golf to watch (not to say it doesn't challenge players)...and the Fort isn't ideal woods golf, lots of issues with flooding and a few too many poke and hope shots on long par 3's....while Idlewild looks pretty good in terms of what I like...though it isn't World's...
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:18 AM
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The more potential spectators the better. YouTube may get more views, but the PDGA needs to consider live spectators over after the fact eyeballs if it wants to grow.
.01% of dgers are live spectators

this is hilarious (especially coming from you)

carriage before the horses but uhh yeah #growthehobby or whatever

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Old 12-01-2019, 12:28 AM
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.01% of dgers are live spectators

this is hilarious (especially coming from you)

carriage before the horses but uhh yeah #growthehobby or whatever
Yeah, you are right.


Better to have internet eyeballs instead of live in person people watching.


Nobody leaves the house anymore.

What was I thinking?
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:33 AM
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Yeah, you are right.


Better to have internet eyeballs instead of live in person people watching.


Nobody leaves the house anymore.

What was I thinking?
its not that "nobody leaves the house"

but most dgers do not care about worlds or whose 5x or 13x

and those that do its more accessible to more people online

so its not that your opinion isnt valid for who the target market is but i sure as hell wouldnt start with the .01%

lolol

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Old 12-01-2019, 12:47 AM
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its not that "nobody leaves the house"

but most dgers do not care about worlds or whose 5x or 13x

and those that do its more accessible to more people online

so its not that your opinion isnt valid for who the target market is but i sure as hell wouldnt start with the .01%

lolol
I appreciate that you are the representative for " most dgers"

Respect.
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:54 AM
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I appreciate that you are the representative for " most dgers"

Respect.
what are you even talking about

when did i assume responsibility for that

if thats that you can pick out from all that ive said lololol youre off your game tonight

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