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Old 02-14-2019, 01:26 PM
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:28 PM
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Would you consider a hot dog to be a sandwich?
Just the thought of that disgusts me. That's a real character question.
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure Horsman throws HARD, and Trilogy stuff does have a very quick initial break in. Then I think it holds steady. I can definitely see how for someone with big power this is a minus, although there are enough OS molds out in Trilogy lines that you can get around that.

For the more normal player, the Trilogy plastics break in in a way that they can actually see. Not like playing 25 days a month while throwing 65+MPH to break in champ plastic. Plus they have good hand feel for most and lots of the molds have good glide. So the properties I see big arms maybe not liking are also the properties that a lot of disc golfers want. I don't think "inferior" is the right term, but less stable/durable is true IME. That said I have lots of Trilogy molds in the bag and several have been in there for many seasons.
I was merely trying to point out that he posts that sentiment a lot, and already had done so multiple times in this thread. I totally understand why some people dislike the Swedish plastic (although I personally love it for the reasons you stated). Wasn't arguing his sentiment, just pointing out its redundancy.

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Old 02-14-2019, 01:33 PM
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Disc companies don't have patents on mold shapes.
Wow. Are you sure about this? If true, then this is crazy. And it makes me wonder why a company would spend a bunch of money on RDT&E when someone else could steal their mold design with no legal repercussions.
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:49 PM
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Wow. Are you sure about this? If true, then this is crazy. And it makes me wonder why a company would spend a bunch of money on RDT&E when someone else could steal their mold design with no legal repercussions.
Patents have to represent something new, unique, and non-obvious to someone skilled in the art in question. So breakthrough new designs like the beveled-edge disc versus the old lid style could be patented (now expired). But you can’t patent design modifications like making a disc a little bigger/smaller, a little more or less curved here or there, with or without a bead, etc. It has to be something different enough to not be obvious.

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Old 02-14-2019, 02:07 PM
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Wow. Are you sure about this? If true, then this is crazy. And it makes me wonder why a company would spend a bunch of money on RDT&E when someone else could steal their mold design with no legal repercussions.
How many companies have tried to copy the Teebird? Apparently it's not so simple.

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Old 02-14-2019, 02:09 PM
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Patents have to represent something new, unique, and non-obvious to someone skilled in the art in question. So breakthrough new designs like the beveled-edge disc versus the old lid style could be patented (now expired). But you can’t patent design modifications like making a disc a little bigger/smaller, a little more or less curved here or there, with or without a bead, etc. It has to be something different enough to not be obvious.
You can only protect the design/disc name, plastic line and your brand. Thus, the importance of branding and marketing in an increasingly commoditized global market.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:17 PM
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:18 PM
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I'm pretty sure Horsman throws HARD, and Trilogy stuff does have a very quick initial break in.
I noticed this as well. The swords I used to throw would get unpredictably flippy after about a month. I just keep a fresh one in the car in case I loose my beat to straight wraith, but I'm not sponsored and buying a new disc all the time just so I can unload the ones that got flippy in a month doesn't make sense. I also had a few other trilogy molds that came very pop top brand new, and randomly had the flight plate puddle from routine transportation in the car during the summer (and I live in NY). Maybe I just got unlucky with the few trilogy discs I tried. The only one that has stood the test of time was an old giant I got before the trilogy rebrand. That thing is money.
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