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Old 02-11-2020, 05:25 PM
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Anyone here use a Firebird for a long time & then replace it totally with an FD3, Felon, Motion or Raptor type disc?
yes i used to bag fb then switched to motion

now i actually dont carry anything in that slot

motion only gets bagged these days for trick shots and for fun

ive found either i can cover that line with a fresh z wasp or a champ wraith
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Old 02-11-2020, 05:26 PM
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The old pearly flat ones come out for field practice, but these are the always on hand favorites. The old 11x on the far right is so perfectly beaten in its crazy.
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Old 02-11-2020, 06:03 PM
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The dynamic duo: Modern flat firebird, and beat 11x. No need for domey firebirds.
There are three runs that stand out to me, in order of most favorite: 2012ish Opaque FAF, 2019 Flat and Pearly, 2012 Pearly FAF.
Imo those three runs are the only real firebirds, everything else just wishes it was.

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Old 02-11-2020, 06:11 PM
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Anyone here use a Firebird for a long time & then replace it totally with an FD3, Felon, Motion or Raptor type disc?
I've tried all but the Motion (my luck with stable to OS overmold drivers has been really bad, something to do with my natural hyzer release I think), and am using an ESP Raptor right now in the FB slot.
The Felon was too prone to flipping randomly, plus Trilogy plastic is awful for someone who hits trees as often as I do.
The FD3 wasn't OS enough for me to use in the FB slot, while at the same time being too OS for the OS control slot (think penned Star ThB).
I was primarily using Star FBs by the time I switched from FBs to the Raptor, as I had lost 50'+ of FH distance so a Champ FB was too beefy for me, though it made a great FH roller disc.
I have a FR Z Raptor as well and it flies nearly the same, but the ESP plastic feels better for FHs and BHs than Z in the Raptor mold for some reason. The Raptors seem to have similar HSS to a FB, but with less LSS (think 0,3 flight instead of 0,4 with and additional glide number). I forgot my bag in my car which I dropped off at a repair shop, and a Champ FB was a comparable stand in, but it was a FAF Luster that was more beef than I was used too.

TL;DR The Raptor is less OS than a typical Champ/Star FB, but it works for me.
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Old 02-12-2020, 05:27 AM
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The old pearly flat ones come out for field practice, but these are the always on hand favorites. The old 11x on the far right is so perfectly beaten in its crazy.
That top left is a beauty. Have you thrown the new run? The one I just bought is great. Stiff and pretty flat.
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Old 04-07-2020, 10:00 AM
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Picked up this Halo Star Firebird yesterday. Seems to have more dome than any other one I've tried.
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The dynamic duo: Modern flat firebird, and beat 11x. No need for domey firebirds.
There are three runs that stand out to me, in order of most favorite: 2012ish Opaque FAF, 2019 Flat and Pearly, 2012 Pearly FAF.
I'm familiar with the 2012 opaque FAF (no, not flat and firm as people this days think it means) and 2019 flat and pearly. got a pic of 2012 pearly FAF?
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Old 04-07-2020, 10:55 AM
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Imo those three runs are the only real firebirds, everything else just wishes it was.
Crazy talk, the normal everyday firebird has had a slot in my bag for over a decade. I also have a FAF in the bag but that only gets used when I need a brick.

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Old 04-07-2020, 11:20 AM
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I respect your opinion, I just hate that my favorite run is unlikely to be replicated.

Attached photos; the Red ones (left) is a 2015 Pearly FB almost perfect and actually with a microscopically higher PLH than the actual 2012 FAF on the right. Slightly taller overall and less firm than the FAF though.

The pink are more recent runs left is a 2017 domey JL. Low PLH, basically an Eagle X at this point. Right is a 2019 pearly one which is flat and very nice. These are similar to the 2015 run in almost every way, but they sold out super quick in heavy weights. I was only able to get this one over 170.

The last pic is the red FAF with what I consider to be its modern equivalent, the Neutron Flare. All three runs so far have been super similar to the FAFs even if they are a touch softer.
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Old 04-07-2020, 01:54 PM
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I'm familiar with the 2012 opaque FAF (no, not flat and firm as people this days think it means) and 2019 flat and pearly. got a pic of 2012 pearly FAF?
Unfortunately, they’re all locked up in storage at the moment. Practically identical profile and PLH as the opaque ones, but in the same plastic as the 3rd run PDs. I even managed to score some with some metal flake in them.
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