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I wish I had watched that first video a while ago but who knows, maybe I did and just did not digest it. It reminds me a lot of the arm-swing illusion in regular golf. You think you are seeing x but the arms stay in front of your body and really go more up and down rather than side to side. But, like you guys are saying, sometimes its just timing or getting to a point on your journey that things start clicking. I feel like I finally have enough of a foundation of really understanding the basics to start getting value from all this.

I think though, that there must be a better way to package up the basics for a newb. I feel like I could explain it to a novice in 10 minutes, but I have not been able to get my buddies who started 8 months ago with me to pick it up. Step out with right foot turned slightly in, feel the hip turn and weight shift, keep disc in front of you, shoulder closed, elbow high, pulling into pocket and then step on the gas and clamp down on your grip. Easy peasy right?

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Old 05-20-2019, 08:48 PM
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Yeah totally. The forearm ejects out on its own for me if I’m focused on getting deep into the pocket. It’s definitely not something I’m thinking about “punching” out. That’s why I love the phrase: “inward pull, outward ejection” which I think BW coined himself.
AFAIK it was really Dave Dunipace. Injection and ejection and disc pivot and working from the hit back.
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I prefer to not use the word "pull" at all in regard to the arm - to me pulling inward means that your upper arm is opening up like Brad calls flapping.

I prefer say the disc swings in and out of your center from the elbow.

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Old 05-20-2019, 09:02 PM
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I think that's his diagram too from Rhatton1's post.
The Mike C Wide Rail diagram is Rhatton1's.

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I originally diagrammed the MikeC, and then Richard did the illustration of the disc and hand.

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Well thanks everyone again... cooperative genius.
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Steve Rico is one of the best spin putters ever and goes into full extension err "flapping". The trail side actually Counter Rotates in order to leverage/extend the release forward!

If your trail side rotates around the front side, then you would be collapsing into the arm instead of extending it away from you.
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One thing I've found out for me is that the BW videos look great and then I go to the field and practice them and everything goes haywire for a couple of weeks or more. This time I stopped after about 10 throws and went back to what SW, SP, and others have been discussing in the Form Analysis and my throw felt good again. Particularly I've been working on getting to the Finish Position and things are coming together and feeling more balanced. I like that progression method better than the quick fix.

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You can also see that Sepo maintains the tilted plane of rotation while the "player on the left" has crossed or smashed through the plane.

The Ball Striking and Body Rotation video https://youtu.be/MIo12LOZiY0?t=219 you posted has a great graphic sequence of the tilted spiral.


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You can also see that Sepo maintains the tilted plane of rotation while the "player on the left" has crossed or smashed through the plane.

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