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Old 04-09-2018, 04:47 PM
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The Buzzz SS, which is the perfect replacement or place holder for a seasoned Buzzz. Thrown back to back with my older practice Z Buzzzes (they're about 6.5 on the sleepy scale) and I'd say they are spot on. In fact I hit pole with an old Buzzz, then aced with the SS on back to back throws just now on my lunch break...
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:06 PM
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My recent epiphany was to season a bunch of wasp like discs, maybe you've heard of this disc, the prophecy. I went this way because of my love for the wasp I took one look and knew that was the shape I had to have, if you like Wasps it's worth it they come in baseline so seasoning them isn't that big a task. The first round I ordered a pink one that was kinda rubbery, it was less stable out of the gate and with a comet compliment gave me enough time to beat it in just right, now it's the stable-US as I'm working in a stiffer one (proto plastic) that's my .02 but wtf do I know
i actually have 2 diamond prophecies, originally to replace my wasps but it was not seasoned enough so i took it out.

base plastic is great and i love it but these texas courses are rocky and can ruin a perfectly good mid in a single throw, its the reason i gave up cycling rocs.

i do have a black zombie crossbow but its too understable and doesnt feel good to me. the wasp was my bread and butter and the bead definitely kept it in that sweet spot for a long time but i guess i will have to either spend the time seasoning a prophecy/gila/buzzz or try something new and replace it as it becomes too understable.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:07 PM
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Jawbreaker Buzzz does rock. Just sayin'
yeah,that or the jawbreaker wasp was my thought too, im just scared to throw something,have it be great and then these good ol texas courses chew it up and have to start over haha

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Old 04-09-2018, 05:08 PM
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Recycled Core beats in pretty quick. I have one that's dead straight. Faster/longer than a Mako3 though IME.
i actually may have an old opto core that i aced with a while back so i might give that a go as well. thanks for reminding me!

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Old 04-09-2018, 06:51 PM
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i actually have 2 diamond prophecies, originally to replace my wasps but it was not seasoned enough so i took it out.

base plastic is great and i love it but these texas courses are rocky and can ruin a perfectly good mid in a single throw, its the reason i gave up cycling rocs.

i do have a black zombie crossbow but its too understable and doesnt feel good to me. the wasp was my bread and butter and the bead definitely kept it in that sweet spot for a long time but i guess i will have to either spend the time seasoning a prophecy/gila/buzzz or try something new and replace it as it becomes too understable.
I kinda feel like the proto suregrip run of the prophecy will hold up to anything man. These things are stiff KC pro on Viagra and steroids stiff. Bit idk Buzzz SS, Season another Buzzz or get a used comet.

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Old 04-09-2018, 06:52 PM
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One other thing to consider since you are a discraft mid guy anyway is a Supercolor Buzzz. I think they come in ESP plastic? I never thought I'd like this disc but it flies just like you are describing for me. I have 3 of them and they were all more understable than a regular Z when new.

My bag is weird right now. I'm throwing a beat eMac Truth for my "new buzzz" slot, a Supercolor for dead nuts straight and a Comet for shots that need to drift right. Normally I'd be using Buzzzes in stages of wear for all these shots but it takes so long to get them there and when you lose one or two you are sort of screwed or you have to improvise.

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Old 04-09-2018, 07:16 PM
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Have you looked at a Warship? It sounds exactly like what your describing to me. Maybe a little fast.
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Old 04-09-2018, 07:54 PM
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I have been searching for that disc as well. East Tennessee courses eat baseline like you are saying Texas does. My Fossil Gila did not last long at all....I love Comets, but they hold whatever line given.

I took my Z Wasp out to our most rocky course and drove every hole(sometimes 2nd shot). 4 rounds and it was pretty nice. It still has a way to go to be perfect, but it is doing well.

Until it hits that perfect stability, I am using a firm Launch to fill that slot. There are several still around to be had.

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Old 04-10-2018, 12:40 AM
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so i need suggestions! i still have buzzzs but not seasoned and if i have to beat some in,i just may. im considering the gobi,a seasoned fossil gila(which i bag for the more stable spots) impact, mako3 ,element or even a buzzz ss
I don't want to sound like Casey but the Impact is actually not a bad choice here if you can get over the weird rim and the gummy ESP plastic it usually comes in.
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Fuzion Evidence then. Good grief I love throwing that thing.
The Evidence was my first thought. Immediate seasoned Buzzz flight, quick, feels good. A heavy Opto or GL Claymore might work too (especially Frost).
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Recycled Core beats in pretty quick. I have one that's dead straight. Faster/longer than a Mako3 though IME.
Cores are pretty sweet still.
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Have you looked at a Warship? It sounds exactly like what your describing to me. Maybe a little fast.
Definitely fits the flight he's looking for. Got more of a Roc feel than a Buzzz feel if that matters to him.

I've always found this to be a tough slot to nail down, especially with quick fixes. If you want it to be particularly useful for line-shaping, for a while to boot, it's really hard to beat starting out with something slightly overstable (like the Wasp) and beating it into this sweet spot. The off the shelf stuff tend to get so much turn and want to drift off-center as they wear in that they can be tough to shape lines with (unless it's that runaway turnover line). Some other underrated mid options that might be worth looking at would be QMS (might take a little seasoning but usually in the ball park of ESP Buzzz, Warship, Core, etc stability) and Squall (might be too fast and driver-ish).

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Old 04-10-2018, 12:49 AM
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I use a Star mako3 for just about every shot inside 200 feet that my roc3 won’t cover. I use a nova for anything within a 100 and outside 25
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