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Old 08-13-2018, 11:12 AM
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It's the Axiom Theory or MVP Vertex.
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Old 08-13-2018, 11:21 AM
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Slower than a Stratus? Hmmmm.....I think you are looking for a putter. X Putt'r is pretty understable. I thought the Comet was the understable complement, lol.
I'm a noodle arm, I can't get turn out of a 170g X Comet at around 220-235 ft. If I really rip in it I can see maybe some turn, but I don't like to really rip on it because I'm only throwing it when accuracy is required.

It holds a line to the ground, but sometimes I want a disc that can turn a bit.
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Old 08-13-2018, 11:23 AM
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It's the Axiom Theory or MVP Vertex.
Damn that's what I was going to say.. Lighter weight in those would probably be the ticket... if the stratus didn't work though I think you are looking for a putter... I complement my Comet with a vertex the putter equivalent is a Spin...
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Old 08-13-2018, 11:38 AM
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I'm a noodle arm, I can't get turn out of a 170g X Comet at around 220-235 ft. If I really rip in it I can see maybe some turn, but I don't like to really rip on it because I'm only throwing it when accuracy is required.

It holds a line to the ground, but sometimes I want a disc that can turn a bit.
A lot of my take has to do with the particular Comet I am throwing. To be fair wolfmandragon is really correct. The Comet is a neutral disc, not understable. If you are throwing it correctly, you should not be getting a lot of turn out of it.
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Old 08-13-2018, 11:44 AM
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Except:
Fuse (old version of Goldline)
Stari (max weight)
Tui (almost a mid, listed as a putter).


It's taken me 4 years to put together that list of 3.
As an avid Fuse thrower, I don't think the run makes much of a difference. What you want to avoid, if you want it to turn easily, is dome. Domey fuses will have more high speed stability, flatter fuses will offer turn earlier into the flight.

I usually bag 1 flat GL and 1 domier opto at all times.

That being said, if you have trouble finding flatter fuses, get an recycled line. Domey or no, they will knock the HSS out of it really quickly, then fly like a flat fuse for a good long while.

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Old 08-13-2018, 11:52 AM
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Comets are understable only if thrown with OAT.
Come on. You know that is an oversimplication.


Here is Michael Johansen speaking about a particular run of Comets, here on DGCR on July 19th.

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From what I have thrown of them, they are flippier than the original ledgestone Ti comets, but aren't what I would call super understable. Seem like good, solid comets

Comets are not all exactly the same. It is my experience that the older runs of ESP are less stable than the quintessential "Comet". Michael Johansen thinks that the new Ti's are a bit understable. If the average Comet goes straight, then there must be some out there that are understable, at least by a little bit.

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Old 08-13-2018, 12:03 PM
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Comets are not all exactly the same. It is my experience that the older runs of ESP are less stable than the quintessential "Comet". Michael Johansen thinks that the new Ti's are a bit understable. If the average Comet goes straight, then there must be some out there that are understable, at least by a little bit.
Yep, and the understable ones are the flat ones - very little shoulder and flat top.

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Old 08-13-2018, 12:25 PM
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If you're looking for "slower", then you need an approach disc/fast putter. I'd suggest the Mirage or even the Deputy.
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Old 08-13-2018, 12:37 PM
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Old 08-13-2018, 12:48 PM
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Folks are suggesting a lot of newer models but for understable mid it's hard to beat the old Stingray. Too much anny and it will dive and cut roll; but thrown flat or with a very slight anny with good spin and it will slow turn all the way to the ground. I carry a light weight DX version that's money. I use it when I need a more gradual turn than I get from a FH.
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