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Old 04-05-2019, 12:02 PM
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Harp has the same depth as an Envy: 1.4cm

Truly shallow putters with stability:

Ringer - 1.2cm depth

Maiden, Bull Frog: 1.3cm
Been here a while now, and I still have no idea how people place putters in the shallow vs deep categories.
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Old 04-05-2019, 12:37 PM
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Now I'm definitely interested in the Yeti, KC, and JK if they are truly just the PnA with a bead. Is this an accurate assessment?
No.

https://www.dgputtheads.com/innova-m...d-kc-pro-aviar The McPro is the PnA Aviar mold and the KC/JK/Yeti are the big bead Aviar molds. The Wizard is almost an exact clone of this mold, so if you don't like the Wizard - it's hard to see why you would like the other Aviars (except the Yeti with its puddle top, but it's pretty easy to find that in Wizards too).

You might be more interested in the Omega.
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Old 04-05-2019, 12:40 PM
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No.

https://www.dgputtheads.com/innova-m...d-kc-pro-aviar The McPro is the PnA Aviar mold and the KC/JK/Yeti are the big bead Aviar molds. The Wizard is almost an exact clone of this mold, so if you don't like the Wizard - it's hard to see why you would like the other Aviars (except the Yeti with its puddle top, but it's pretty easy to find that in Wizards too).

You might be more interested in the Omega.
https://www.dgputtheads.com/millennium-omega-review The Omega is the Small-Bead Aviar mold. It's basically your sweet spot in between the PnA Aviar and the KC Aviar.
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You want an Envy.

Harps are overstable and deep, so the opposite of what you want.
I rocked the Pure-Envy combo for a solid 2 years. Both are great and they complement each other.
I de-bagged the Pure due to not being able to find replacements in the correct plastics, not for flight or shape reasons.

Envy has a micro-bead as well. Feels very nice in the hand.

Currently, the Tui is my putting putter. Very low profile, medium dome and beaded. The Envy is still there for upshots and headwind putts.

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Agreed on the envy recs.


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Comparing profile photos of the Envy, Yeti, Omega, and Wizard and comparing in person the Focus, PnA, and Wizard, here are my observations:

- The Wizard rim is totally round, top and bottom. Being rounded on the bottom is the factor that displaces my index finger positioning on the bead. The Focus is very nearly identical, but the bottom rounding section is just a touch shorter in height than the equivalent round on the Wizard.

- The Yeti and Omega rims are similar in that only the top half of the rim is rounded - the bottom half either tapers straight back to the bead (Omega) or even becomes concave (Yeti). This taper to the bead instead of a convex rounding to the bead is the quality I find comfortable on the PnA.

- The Envy seems like a blend of the Focus and the Omega in that the rim is rounded on the top and bottom, but the bottom rounding is shorter in height than the top and then hits a straight line back to the bead.

I couldn't find a picture of the Focus or PnA profiles online, so I just grabbed those discs and compared against the photos on my monitor. Based on this I'm going to go to my local store this weekend to hold an Envy, a Yeti (and/or KC), and an Omega just to see how the bottom rim taper affects my index finger placement.

My comparison photos:
Wizard:
https://infinitediscs.com/Inf_Upload...pid%20Soft.jpg

Omega:
https://infinitediscs.com/Inf_Upload...Omega%20AP.jpg

Yeti:
https://infinitediscs.com/Inf_Upload...Yeti%20Pro.jpg

Envy:
https://dgputtheads.com/wp-content/u...vy-Profile.jpg
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Old 04-05-2019, 03:39 PM
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I rocked the Pure-Envy combo for a solid 2 years. Both are great and they complement each other.

Still rockin'. Greatest approach combo there is despite what Proxy fans think.

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Old 04-05-2019, 03:44 PM
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Beat in Rhyno, or try a Streamline Pilot.
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What mold is your Rhyno? San Marino's in dx fly nice and straight with a mild fade. As someone else said, beat in some dx and with champs you can cover a lot of lines with one mold.

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Harp has the same depth as an Envy: 1.4cm

Truly shallow putters with stability:

Ringer - 1.2cm depth

Maiden, Bull Frog: 1.3cm
i don't care what the PDGA approval site says. Harps feel deep, and Envies feel shallow.

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