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Old 12-17-2010, 03:00 AM
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Default What's better which is longer an understable thrown hyzer or a stable thrown flat

Assuming same speed disc what would fly further a hyzer release on an understable or a flat release on a neutral. Which do u prefer Tons of variables but curious what people think.
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:16 AM
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I'm betting a hyzer flip would be longer, due to the extra airtime from it originally going right, to fading back left.

Another question, with a same speed disc, which is longer, a hyzer flip or a flex shot?
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:38 AM
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I just really like using a sidewinder for those long gradual hyzers. A thing of beauty and always outdistances a flat thrown neutral. I'm thinking tunnels here.
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I have a SUPER flippy DX Valk that I can release with a hyzer (like 90!!!) and it will flip up level at about 250ft and glide flat for another 200ft. It is always the farthest disc (and throwing line) in my bag, at field tests. Sometimes a very high/huge flex shot can go out about the same distance... but that isn't going through any tunnel.
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:59 AM
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I would say, theoretically, the understable disc, since it is generating more lift. So it's longer.

And you're right, there are alot of variables that need to be removed from this, largely player ability and preference to a specific shot. That's where the better part comes in...more subjectivity.

Now my preference would also be the hyzer flip, throwing a Pro Destroyer, Hurricane, or beat-in PD. But the reasons are not only the lift/glide of thess discs, but also that I can generate a bit more speed and snap from a hyzer release vs. a flatter or anyhyzer release.

I've hit a few decent flex shots here and there, but not with consistency, so I typically only use them if I need to get over or around something on a distance drive. Given a choice, I rip the flip.

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Old 12-17-2010, 08:15 AM
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Simply distance, hyzer-flipping the understable, but if there is control involved, I find it much more reliable having a stable disc flexed or thrown flat as I feel I control where in the flight turns are more. Then again, I cary mostly stable to understable discs and do lean on a hyzer release most of the time for reasons Toothy mentioned.
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:32 AM
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for me, i get the most D using an Orc. RHBH small anny turn to the right with a small fade back left. 360' is my best and it landed nearly in a laser straight line from where i through it (that's rare for me btw)
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First, the (relative) noob has to ask - what do you mean by flex shot? S-shot?
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:42 AM
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First, the (relative) noob has to ask - what do you mean by flex shot? S-shot?
Throw something stable to overstable with an anhyzer angle, which looks like this \ RHBH. Its will turn for a bit but the stability it has will pull it out of the anny to flat then fade. I use it a lot to delay the fade and make an overstable get out further before cutting left.
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Ok so it's just an S-shot. I got it.
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