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Old 03-28-2017, 12:12 PM
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PDGA LEGAL: Umm, most people won't bag it if it's not (including me).

GLIDE: I'd say medium. I'd rather have a little more HSS than more glide.

NEUTRALITY: Stable. If we're producing it in Fossil, then it will be pretty easy to beat into neutral/understable. Having a little more HSS when fresh will make it more useful.

DIAMETER: I have no real opinion other than it needs to fit in a bag.

RIM DEPTH: I'd prefer something in the 1.3-1.5 range. I really like 1.4.

SHOULDER: Squared off makes it more of of a real lid.

THUMTRAC: Whatever we need to get a stable flight with medium glide. Thumbtracs affect flight; they tend to reduce glide and add stability, so whether we need that might depend on what kind of stability the rest of our geometry gives us.

RINGS OF HEDRICK: No opinion, but they probably affect flight so see previous.

RAISED CENTER: See previous.

DOME: Definitely flat!

OVERMOLD: No. I see that as just adding risk/cost for no real benefit.

RIM "BEAD" RADIUS: Hmm, not sure on this one really. Might depend on how it changes the flight.

BEVELED EDGE: No bevel, make it a lid.

INTERNAL RIM TO FLIGHTPLATE TRANSITION RADIUS: Not rounded. Gateway's rounded undersides on their mids just create contention. Nobody loves them, some people deal with them okay, but some really hate them. Do a more traditional, less rounded transition.

PLUS RIM: No plus rim, see previous.

WEIGHTS: I would rather throw max weight, but others will want light weights, especially in a lid, so I'd say being able to get the weight down at least to 160 is probably important.
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Old 03-28-2017, 12:18 PM
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Looks like rim depth might be the most contentious item on the list. A lot the answers are nearly universal, but that one seems pretty split. Stability might be as well, although I think we can probably deal with that through weight. Lots of folks want this in 150 class. If 150-160 is more neutral and 175 is stable, then that would be a good way to give everyone what they want.
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Old 03-28-2017, 12:26 PM
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PDGA LEGAL: YES

GLIDE: High

NEUTRALITY: Neutral

DIAMETER: 21.0

RIM DEPTH: As shallow as we can make glide well

SHOULDER: Rounded shoulder but at a very low radius; preserve majority of edge as flat wall.

THUMTRAC: If present must be raised (birdie, rhyno) not depressed (banger GT)

RINGS OF HEDRICK: YES

RAISED CENTER: NO

DOME: Slight dome (allows for better nose-up glide for air bounce shots)

OVERMOLD: NO

RIM "BEAD" RADIUS: As large as possible (bottom rim at full disc diameter)

BEVELED EDGE: No bevel, make it a lid.

INTERNAL RIM TO FLIGHTPLATE TRANSITION RADIUS: Sharp as can be made durable

PLUS RIM: NO NO NO

WEIGHTS: From 150g to max pdga
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Old 03-28-2017, 12:30 PM
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PDGA LEGAL: YES

GLIDE: High

NEUTRALITY: Neutral

DIAMETER: 21.0

RIM DEPTH: As shallow as we can make glide well

SHOULDER: Rounded shoulder but at a very low radius; preserve majority of edge as flat wall.

THUMTRAC: If present must be raised (birdie, rhyno) not depressed (banger GT)

RINGS OF HEDRICK: YES

RAISED CENTER: NO

DOME: Slight dome (allows for better nose-up glide for air bounce shots)

OVERMOLD: NO

RIM "BEAD" RADIUS: As large as possible (bottom rim at full disc diameter)

BEVELED EDGE: No bevel, make it a lid.

INTERNAL RIM TO FLIGHTPLATE TRANSITION RADIUS: Sharp as can be made durable

PLUS RIM: NO NO NO

WEIGHTS: From 150g to max pdga
I don't agree with Sonic on much (except that The Flying Burrito Brothers are amazing) but I agree with everything he said here. My vote is the same as his.

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Maybe the only difference would be if Rings of Hedrick are necessary with a Thumtrac.

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Old 03-28-2017, 12:31 PM
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RE: Dome & shoulder

I highly encourage a slight dome with a slightly rounded shoulder. Domes allow discs to fly without stalling when thrown nose up. Lids love to be thrown nose up. One of the main problems with Polecats is that you cannot throw elevator shots as well as a traditional lid. A slightly rounded shoulder with a slight transitional dome will fix this.
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Old 03-28-2017, 02:09 PM
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I don't agree with Sonic on much [but m]y vote is the same as his.
Damnit. Me too. On all of it. Except I could go either way on a thumbtrac(k).

Plus rims are hot garbage.

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PDGA LEGAL: Yes

GLIDE: High side of medium

NEUTRALITY: Neutral with a little high speed turn resistance

DIAMETER: As long as it fits in a bag

RIM DEPTH: Somewhere in the middle

SHOULDER:Squared off

THUMTRAC: I love the RDG thumb groove, but not for a lid. Haven't thrown a juju in so long, I forget what those divots do.

RINGS OF HEDRICK: I'm leaning toward nay on this. I think it makes the disc slip in the hand a little.

RAISED CENTER: As long it's not too tall

DOME: slight dome

OVERMOLD: no

RIM "BEAD" RADIUS: rounded

BEVELED EDGE: no

INTERNAL RIM TO FLIGHTPLATE TRANSITION RADIUS: not sure

PLUS RIM: HATE

WEIGHTS: I'm not a fan of light golf discs, so I'd probably go heavy on this.
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Old 03-28-2017, 02:36 PM
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FAR too many people are agreeing on the Rings of Hedrick... Seriously?

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FAR too many people are agreeing on the Rings of Hedrick... Seriously?
Yeah, this is going south FAST.
Just make a slightly larger diameter Polecat and call it a day or we are going too end up in the "came by committee" seat.

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Yeah, this is going south FAST.
Just make a slightly larger diameter Polecat and call it a day or we are going too end up in the "camelby committee" seat.
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