Old 12-22-2014, 02:17 PM
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Default Pure vs. Mercy

I am currently driving with an Opto Pure (174g), but it consistently turns right on me. I'm not sure if it is me or the disc as I was under the impression the Pure is supposed to fly very straight. I putt with a Zero Meduim Mercy, and one day on a whim, I tossed it off the tee and it flew like I thought the Pure should, dead straight with a minimal fade at the end. Plus, it flew 30 feet longer than the Pure. I'm looking for others' input and thoughts on driving with a Mercy and if so what plastic? Or do I need to look at my form because the Pure should be straight?
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:46 PM
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If the Opto Pure is in relatively decent shape, it's your form.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:46 PM
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I've found that a Mercy is actually a bit slower than a Pure and, as a result, I can't throw it as far. I love driving Opto Pures because there's very little fade or turn on them.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:47 PM
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Old 12-22-2014, 03:11 PM
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I love driving the Mercy. Its suprisingly stable, almost as stable new as my old beaded putters (wizards, challengers, ions) I can work it on more lines because the dependable fade.
I like that its slower, it makes it more workable on shorter shots and doesn't encroach on my midranges as much as some putters.

That all said, the Pure should be stable enough for driving duties. Most the guys I know that throw latitude and drive their putters well drive pures.
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Old 12-22-2014, 03:11 PM
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The mercy is only a hair slower than a pure and more overstable. Pures vary in stability like anything else, and they aren't very overstable. I've bought some pure's that weren't very understable but one of my 175 optos was a little understable when fresh which surprised me. A lot of people with perfect, clean form use pures for turnovers; especially if they throw them farther. You should still be able to hyzer flip your understable pure though, obviously.
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Old 12-22-2014, 03:25 PM
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I have never thrown the Pure before, but I do carry 5 Mercys in my bag. I throw 3 of them for different types of shots. My throwers are 1 soft, 1 medium and 1 hard. For me the soft I have is less stable, but the medium and hard are very similar. My go to is the medium as I feel it has a smoother release from my hand when thrown hard. At full power I have to hyzerflip them to keep them somewhat straight. They turn some, but it is predictable. I can get my Mercys out to 300-320' on a full rip. One of my favorite discs to throw in my bag.
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:50 PM
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Unless that Pure's several years old and beat to absolute snot, I would say it's form as well.

I found the two molds to be easy to range, but how they got to their spot was different. The Pure was faster and more neutral while the Mercy was slower and glidey with more low speed fade.
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:37 AM
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I also prefer the Mercy for driving. All the Pures I had were way too flippy for serious driving (200ft+) especially in windy conditions. But I'm pretty sure my form is quite bad.
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Old 12-23-2014, 07:24 AM
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Pure is one of those discs that hates bad form. I know if I strong armed or OATed the Pure will tell me. It's also one of the nicest flying discs with good form. Opto for driving.
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