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Old 06-19-2018, 11:30 AM
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You do bring up an interesting point: with all of Innova's Tour Series discs, I am shocked (shocked!) that no one is getting a Tour Series Valkyrie (that I know of). It's a good-selling mold, but instead everyone piles on Teebirds, Leo3s, and Shrykes! C'mon, someone get your name on the Valk!
Hmmm, I think the Valk is a bit of an abandoned mold at this point. It has too much turn and flies too far to be a fairway driver. But if you throw over about 350, it's probably not going to fly as far consistently as something in the speed 11-13 range. Even for people with slower arms, a faster, understable driver like a Star Tern will probably go further than a Valk (although the Valk might be more reliable). And I don't think any pros are putting their names on a tour series discs that they don't bag. I don't know if bagging the disc is a specific requirement for tour series, but most of the time they seem to be discs those players are known for throwing.
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Old 06-19-2018, 01:39 PM
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Hmmm, I think the Valk is a bit of an abandoned mold at this point. It has too much turn and flies too far to be a fairway driver. But if you throw over about 350, it's probably not going to fly as far consistently as something in the speed 11-13 range. Even for people with slower arms, a faster, understable driver like a Star Tern will probably go further than a Valk (although the Valk might be more reliable). And I don't think any pros are putting their names on a tour series discs that they don't bag. I don't know if bagging the disc is a specific requirement for tour series, but most of the time they seem to be discs those players are known for throwing.
You are right: with all the new discs that have come out in recent years, maybe the Valk has gotten "caught up" and is between some people's ranges. In still surprised that more pro ladies are not carrying and throwing Valks.

And to confirm what you're saying in a mirror-image kind of way: they may not be required to bag their tour series sig disc, but it would do much for their sales if they weren't bagging that mold...
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Old 06-19-2018, 02:23 PM
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Hmmm, I think the Valk is a bit of an abandoned mold at this point. It has too much turn and flies too far to be a fairway driver. But if you throw over about 350, it's probably not going to fly as far consistently as something in the speed 11-13 range. Even for people with slower arms, a faster, understable driver like a Star Tern will probably go further than a Valk (although the Valk might be more reliable). And I don't think any pros are putting their names on a tour series discs that they don't bag. I don't know if bagging the disc is a specific requirement for tour series, but most of the time they seem to be discs those players are known for throwing.

Have you thrown a recently run Valk? I purchased four Stars and two Champs (and a bunch of DX but that's another story) and they all have some meat to them fresh. Not overstable but I was putting them near 450' with minimal turn. 375' on some tight holes and the fade was apparent. Thrown next to some older 4x JKs that are 6ish/10 it was obvious that these discs were new, but also made me consider the possibility they'd be beefier than a 10/10 4x. Difficult to compare a used and kind of abused PLH to one fresh off the press

I agree it's abandoned, but shouldn't be. Hell...most of DGCR would benefit from only throwing them as a distance driver and nothing faster. Valks has a magical cruise to them and just take off.





Now for my question, why did I stop throwing them for so many years?

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Old 06-19-2018, 02:52 PM
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Have you thrown a recently run Valk? I purchased four Stars and two Champs (and a bunch of DX but that's another story) and they all have some meat to them fresh. Not overstable but I was putting them near 450' with minimal turn. 375' on some tight holes and the fade was apparent. Thrown next to some older 4x JKs that are 6ish/10 it was obvious that these discs were new, but also made me consider the possibility they'd be beefier than a 10/10 4x. Difficult to compare a used and kind of abused PLH to one fresh off the press

I agree it's abandoned, but shouldn't be. Hell...most of DGCR would benefit from only throwing them as a distance driver and nothing faster. Valks has a magical cruise to them and just take off.
Haha, I wasn't trying to say they were bad discs at all. Valks are great. My very first golf disc was a Star Valk, and I still have it. I just think the mold has been mostly abandoned by the general throwing public because they fall into a sort of magical no-man's land of discs that fly like a distance driver but don't have a wide enough rim to be considered a "modern" distance driver (whatever that means) in most players' bags. You're making me want to go out and buy a new Star Valk to mess around with now...

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Old 06-19-2018, 02:59 PM
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Hell, I should probably bag nothing higher speed than PDs and OLSs(or my newfound friend, the Volt). Not a huge fan of wide rims on discs.

Can someone tell me the difference between the OLS and Valk. Do they share the same wing?
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Old 06-19-2018, 04:43 PM
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Can someone tell me the difference between the OLS and Valk. Do they share the same wing?
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