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Old 03-09-2017, 01:06 PM
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Z weighing in at 174. I need to get out and throw some more to see if mine's a weird one. But yeah, it's really nice for forehand.
Are you getting turn just forehand? I have the Ledgestone Z Glo and the Big Z and they have some good fight to them.


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Old 03-09-2017, 01:29 PM
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Are you getting turn just forehand? I have the Ledgestone Z Glo and the Big Z and they have some good fight to them.
Turn both ways. I was initially surprised throwing into a light headwind (RHBH) and turning way right and going OB. It's likely I've got some OAT problems, but I was expecting more HSS. My forehand is pretty decent, and I actually love the slight turn I get. It allows me to throw very straight tunnel shots or mild flex lines. It definitely has some fight and skip at the end, but it's not as beefy as I initially expected. Nevertheless, if I had to pick only one fairway/driver for a round, this would definitely be it right now. Very versatile and one that keeps coming out of the bag for forehand, backhand, hyzer/flex, etc. And I'm sure I already mentioned how unique the disc feels to me. It's growing on me, and I still think Discraft did a really nice job with this mold.

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Old 03-09-2017, 06:18 PM
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Results and reactions from this afternoons testing:
Super impressed with the ESP Glo. It is out of the box 9/10 of what a perfectly (3yo) Z Avenger can be. Biddable in every way. Will hold hyzer/straight/anhyzer lines for nearly it's full flight. Instantly in the bag. It does not hold up well under power in a left to right cross, RHBH, unless you truly focus on hyzer release. It will gently flip over and hold turn to the ground. In no wind I am able to throw true hyzer flips with it.
The Z FLX is the least high speed stable of the 4 Undertakers I compared. Especially in the above crosswind. It never turned over sharply enough to roll, but it turns harder and faster than the ESP. Thrown with enough hyzer and height, it held it's own distance wise in 10-15 mph crosswinds. This one actually shined for me thrown FH. Very straight and very comfortable. It is also in the bag.
From most overstable to least:
Ledgestone Glo Z
First Run Z
ESP Glo
FLX Z

I was maxing these out at about 390 per the rangefinder, BH, substantially shorter FH, probably 300 or less.

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Old 03-09-2017, 07:42 PM
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I wonder if my Big Z has an unusual PLH, because it has just as much stability as my Ledgestone Glo? I figured it would be like an ESP version...I'll have to get a couple more and see.
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Old 04-05-2017, 02:47 PM
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http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/discraft...ndertaker.html

I really like X. A pair of these to cycle right next to my Glo Z will be a beautiful thing.

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Old 04-05-2017, 03:28 PM
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I stuck Big Z one in my bag just to fool around with. It has found a home somewhere between my Teebirds and Leos. I love it.
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Old 04-07-2017, 09:20 AM
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http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/discraft...ndertaker.html

I really like X. A pair of these to cycle right next to my Glo Z will be a beautiful thing.
X UNDERTAKERS!!!? YEAAAH! WHEN DID THESE COME OUT!? YES!
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:34 PM
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Wondering if an X Undertaker will replace my Big Z Mantis.
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Old 04-07-2017, 04:07 PM
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Wondering if an X Undertaker will replace my Big Z Mantis.
Interesting to hear someone mention that. I actually dont carry z mantises because ive never thrown one that didnt fly like a lathargic z undertaker.

Either way, i think we're both shooting for the same spot there.
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Old 04-08-2017, 01:06 AM
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Does anyone know if there is another vendor with x undertakers in stock? Im looking for a green one.
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