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Old 10-17-2019, 12:47 PM
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I agree with ShopTom if we're talking age-protected divisions. Anyone playing MP40 or MP50 that wants to play for the big bucks can step into MPO if they so desire, and a good number of them can be competitive for it if they did. IMO, the only time age-protected divisions should be getting a significant chunk of added money is if it's a Masters-only event to begin with.

Disagree with regard to FPO. They should get the exact same share, proportionally, of added money as MPO. The highest rated woman in the world will rank near the bottom of every MPO field she might enter, unless we're talking local C-tier events where there's rarely any added cash to divvy up anyway. There's no rationalization for saying "you want to make money, play MPO" to any woman.
Why is it Mixed Pro Open and not Men's Pro Open then? This is not a sport where athletes directly compete and collide against each other. They compete against the course. The best disc golf players should compete and be paid in MPO, no matter the age or gender.
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Old 10-17-2019, 01:36 PM
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If you want top money play Mixed Pro Open. Any division with restrictions should receive significantly less money.
This logic goes out the window next year. For 2020, they have added a ratings restriction to MPO. (For NT events, as well as DGPT and pro Majors.)

So at these top-level events, there will no longer be any truly unrestricted, "open" division.

The question becomes: how do you divvy up added cash between the various restricted divisions?
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Old 10-17-2019, 01:49 PM
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This has to be a joke...Should the WNBA be compensated the same as NBA players? If any FPO player wants to compete to be the best, they can do that by playing MPO.

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Old 10-17-2019, 01:57 PM
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This has to be a joke...Should the WNBA be compensated the same as NBA players? If any FPO player wants to compete to be the best, they can do that by playing MPO.
No one, NO ONE, is arguing that women should be compensated the same as the men (and if they are, they're being foolish).

FPO should get an equal share, proportionally, of the added cash as MPO. And they do. In fact, it appears when it comes to the NT bonus money, they're getting a larger share than one would expect if it was proportionally divided. As for why...the money's allocated before any of the proportions are known, so it appears to be down to guesswork.

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Old 10-17-2019, 02:17 PM
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No one, NO ONE, is arguing that women should be compensated the same as the men (and if they are, they're being foolish).

FPO should get an equal share, proportionally, of the added cash as MPO. And they do. In fact, it appears when it comes to the NT bonus money, they're getting a larger share than one would expect if it was proportionally divided. As for why...the money's allocated before any of the proportions are known, so it appears to be down to guesswork.
many people in this thread are arguing that the NT EOS payouts should be the same for men and women
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Old 10-17-2019, 02:25 PM
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many people in this thread are arguing that the NT EOS payouts should be the same for men and women
The NT Points Series payout should be the same. The PDGA already pays out fewer places for the FPO NT points race. For FPO players, the commitment to go on the national tour, and perform well against the field, is the same as the men.

As for single event earnings, there's a gap to bridge between the field sizes. Find and solve the root causes of that problem and payouts in single events will level out.

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Old 10-17-2019, 02:43 PM
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Fewer competitors = fewer places paid out

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Old 10-19-2019, 10:35 AM
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This has to be a joke...Should the WNBA be compensated the same as NBA players? If any FPO player wants to compete to be the best, they can do that by playing MPO.
NBA/WNBA, or PGA/LPGA, etc. aren't great comparisons, they're totally separate leagues with their own finances. There are big sports that do pay equally. The grand slam payouts for tennis are equal between men and women and have been that way for a long time. Obviously womens tennis is a probably a larger draw related to men's tennis than FPO is relative to MPO, but the organizers still had to make a conscience decision at some point to make payouts equal.

It's one payout for the entire year, would it be too much to step up and make it equal, solely for the purpose of promoting the womens game? If you were going to pick one payout to do it, this would be the one since it's the culmination of 5 events and may drive up FPO participation in all of those events.

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I find it comical that so many people want their money to go to a small protected division and is basically a handout that only 3 people in the world are capable of receiving.......I would think there are better ways of promoting the women's game other than dumping the money into the hands of a couple players, a few of which are rude and intimidating to other women......seriously though, well intentioned argument but ineffective use of resource allocation

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It might help to consider the purpose of those payouts. Which I don't know.

Is it to elevate the status of the NT events? To encourage players to play in more of them? To make touring more financially viable for top players? To increase spectator/media interest because they're playing for something extra at the end of the year? A vague notion that players should get more money for winning the points series? Something else?

Knowing why there's this bonus payout might shed light on how it's distributed.

(It might also be helpful to know where that money comes from---Is it raised at NT events, budgeted from pro memberships, or just from the general funds of the PDGA).

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