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View Poll Results: What level player are you & do you try to modulate the amount of spin on your throw?
I'm pretty advanced. I just throw and don't worry about more or less spin. 32 42.67%
I'm pretty advanced. I use different levels of spin to make my discs/shots work. 16 21.33%
I'm not very advanced. I don't worry about putting different levels of spin on my throws. 21 28.00%
I'm not very advanced. I try to control the level of spin on my shots. 6 8.00%
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:43 PM
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Default Do you try to put more or less spin on your disc? Or just throw?

Hey all, I was playing recently and heard various folks talking about putting more or less spin on shots with certain discs. What about you? Do you think about how much spin?
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:05 AM
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My experience counts for zilch, but I have found that almost any Innova disc requires more spin than an equivalent MVP for the same shot. Not a bad thing, just different.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:17 AM
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The consensus seems to be the other way around for MVP, in that MVP discs require a bit more snap and spin.

To the OP, I don't consciously adjust on drives. I do sometimes on shorter shorts, such as low ceiling approaches or something.

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Old 03-22-2017, 12:22 AM
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Thought this thread was specific to putting.

Approaches and drives are a different critters.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:35 AM
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I try to intentionally throw with different levels of spin to achieve my lines.

200' hyzer approach with unlimited ceiling? I'm putting my Envy on a hyzer and not trying to spin in particularly hard, just letting the disc work.

340' tunnel shot ending in a slight right turn? I might rip my Proxy hard and flat, with a ton of spin, so that it gets forced into a mild turnover late in the flight and holds a slight right drift to the pin.

500' distance drive that needs to be straight to fade in a really strong tailwind? I might take a really flippy distance driver and throw it with a ton of spin and some hyzer. It will try to flip up and turnover, but the tail wind and high rate of spin will hold it relatively straight, while it glides down the fairway for massive distance.

For late breaking turnovers I find being able to manipulate spin is incredibly helpful. Throwing something flippy with a lot of hyzer and a ton of spin can make discs do strange things in the air.
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Spin is a byproduct of hand speed at release and strength of the grip, which both (of course with other variables in at such as disc stabilities etc) determine how far you are going to throw. I do not believe we will see an appreciable difference in spin from player to player at comparable speeds and distances unless we are dealing with extremely low disc speeds where you can actually choose to relax the grip a bit...and release before a full extension of the arm happens. Approaches and putting come to mind, moreso putting. Approaches are really the only "throw" where I might relax my grip to neuter my release speed (and therefore spin) because it's a pain in the ass to get a full extension on a very short throw with a lid and still be very accurate. Still not directly manipulating disc rotation, merely allowing my arm to travel at a more comfortable pace while throwing the object slower.

So, I'd argue that putts are the only meaningful situation where one can impart more/less spin and claim to exercise significant control.

I'm not a "very" advanced player. I do throw farther than most average league players, topping at 450' or so for my very best drives. I don't throw as far as many people out there, but I don't think this is a question of skill. And I certainly do consider myself somewhat adept at manipulating discs at low speeds. I love lids.

My answer is, don't even bother thinking about it. Not worth your time except for putts.....MAAAAYBE.

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Old 03-22-2017, 02:43 AM
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the backhand throw just naturally adds spin to the disc. I never think "Oh I need to spin the disc THIS much" It just happens depending on how quick your arm speed is on the shot.
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I just throw. The only thing I'm concerned with is trying to keep my hand on the outside of the disc on drives. On approaches I don't worry so much about that.
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So, I'd argue that putts are the only meaningful situation where one can impart more/less spin and claim to exercise significant control.
That all depends on your definition of significant. It's absolutely possible to take 2 drivers and throw them at the same speed and release angle, but spin one really hard and the other very little and watch "significantly" different flight paths result.

For example, when I play a 2 disc round and need to dogleg left, and my only non-putter is something super flippy, I'm throwing a steep hyzer with as little spin as possible to keep my flippy disc going left on the hyzer and not flipping up and over.

I don't know why people think it's such a difficult thing to control. It's really not.

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For late breaking turnovers I find being able to manipulate spin is incredibly helpful. Throwing something flippy with a lot of hyzer and a ton of spin can make discs do strange things in the air.
Agreed. I do this with my Tursas to get it to wait until like 225' before turning right. It's beautiful.

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That all depends on your definition of significant. It's absolutely possible to take 2 drivers and throw them at the same speed and release angle, but spin one really hard and the other very little and watch "significantly" different flight paths result.

For example, when I play a 2 disc round and need to dogleg left, and my only non-putter is something super flippy, I'm throwing a steep hyzer with as little spin as possible to keep my flippy disc going left on the hyzer and not flipping up and over.

I don't know why people think it's such a difficult thing to control. It's really not.
How do you know you're actually varying you spin that much and getting the results you expect? Sure you can get different flights, but you haven't isolated spin on those throws so the flight paths could be different for any number of other reasons. It probably doesn't matter why they fly different as long as you can control it, but I haven't seen anyone actually show that they can control spin independent of speed on a drive.

Here's a thread where a big arm thrower did some actual testing of spin:

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums...d.php?t=111158

He found that he had a hard time controlling spin by itself. He did show that a friend of his had a different speed to spin ratio, which suggests it's possible to control to some extent, but neither of them seemed to be able to control it, and one of the guys holds the world record for the longest thrown object.

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