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Old 11-13-2018, 02:17 PM
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Anyone know How the New ESP's fly?
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Old 11-14-2018, 09:10 PM
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They must not be that good.

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Old 11-15-2018, 04:27 PM
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They must not be that good.
The one i ordered (174g esp) was super flippy. Not what i wanted. So i gave it away and ordered a Force. Now im good.

It had a flat flight plate btw
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Old 11-15-2018, 04:41 PM
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They must not be that good.

I have a feeling they will be super popular in about 6 months.

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Old 11-15-2018, 05:18 PM
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I have a feeling they will be super popular in about 6 months.
I'm not sold on McBeth throwing the Punisher if that's what you're referring to. But who knows, you probably know something I don't.
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:39 PM
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The Punisher's rim is narrower than a Wraith. I doubt McBeth would even bag one other than just to move another SKU.
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:45 PM
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The Punisher's rim is narrower than a Wraith. I doubt McBeth would even bag one other than just to move another SKU.
According to the PDGA Wraith is 2.1 Punisher is 2.2 https://www.pdga.com/files/pdga_appr...cs_110418a.pdf
Unless these aren't considered reliable measurements? I don't know.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:58 AM
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The PDGA measurements aren't reliable.

My calipers show an ESP Punisher to be ~.835" wide- same as the Thrasher and Machete. A couple Wraiths are .850"- same as DD Trespass and Enforcer. Destroyers are ~.900" to maybe .915"(not quite as consistent and I have several)- same as a Defender and Force. And for specificity's sake, I actually have two Crystal Sparkle FLX Forces that are only .890", while the Z I had was .900".
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:42 AM
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Punisher flies more similarly to the Wraith than a Destroyer, IMO. Less HSS than most Destroyers, certainly. Not to say I don't like the mold, but they don't come out to play on windy days. The GLO Z Punishers are the most overstable, if that is what you are looking for.
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:09 PM
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Punisher flies more similarly to the Wraith than a Destroyer, IMO. Less HSS than most Destroyers, certainly. Not to say I don't like the mold, but they don't come out to play on windy days. The GLO Z Punishers are the most overstable, if that is what you are looking for.
I agree. Smaller rim width, less HSS. ESP Punisher I have flies more like a Trespass or Wraith.

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