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Old 05-18-2018, 01:29 AM
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Shark3 ? Mis-stamp-a-roni?

I have zero faith in f2 stock from Innova and the straight up f2 stamp gives me the hrmmmms.

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Not a Shark 3. Those look different more gradual in the rim part. Not sure what that is, looks like a ROCX3 maybe? That could explain the flight path this disc takes.

Evan if that was a Shark 3 that would be less stable then the ROC/ROC 3.
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:04 AM
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Not a Shark 3. Those look different more gradual in the rim part. Not sure what that is, looks like a ROCX3 maybe? That could explain the flight path this disc takes.

Evan if that was a Shark 3 that would be less stable then the ROC/ROC 3.
Make that only a hair more overstable as ROC/ROC 3 for me. My mistake. Defiantly not this Flippy disc the guy is describing.

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Old 05-18-2018, 11:22 AM
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:21 PM
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So are some F2's more likely to be wonky when thrown? I thought it was supposed to just be cosmetic stuff like some flake or something was left in it from a previous batch, etc. Stuff that shouldn't affect the flight.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:48 PM
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So are some F2's more likely to be wonky when thrown? I thought it was supposed to just be cosmetic stuff like some flake or something was left in it from a previous batch, etc. Stuff that shouldn't affect the flight.
I think Discraft is that way. Innova will put almost all seconds out there, cosmetic and physical defects alike.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:54 PM
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So are some F2's more likely to be wonky when thrown? I thought it was supposed to just be cosmetic stuff like some flake or something was left in it from a previous batch, etc. Stuff that shouldn't affect the flight.
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I think Discraft is that way. Innova will put almost all seconds out there, cosmetic and physical defects alike.
Most Innova F2s are for cosmetic reasons, but some may be for other reasons. I'm also not sure if those stamped "X-out" are just for cosmetic reasons...
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:11 PM
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I just got a new 180 gram champ Roc3 and found that it turns over even on low powered shots. I was shocked by this since I had another champ Roc3 around 175 grams and found it to be dead straight until it was beat in a bit (and then only a slight turn on a flat release). I have read from others that the champ Roc3 is typically the most stable. Wondering if there is something wrong with the disc (it is a factory second) or am I missing something?
I’ve thrown a few 180g production run champ roc3’s that fly like this. It’s very strange indeed, but my guess is as good as anybody’s as to why some discs come out as stable or not.
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:30 PM
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If you're throwing them Forehand, it very well may be OAT (Off Axis Torque).

I could be wrong and your FH could be super clean.

I'm guessing that the first Roc3 molded up more stable/OS than this one, which is why you're turning the new one over.

Or perhaps the other one is more flat and the dome on this one is messing up your grip.
Both seemed to be equally flat and I don't think it is OAT. Here is a video of me throwing the Roc3, a BT hard harp, and a very beat in teebird (in that order). I realize that the speed of the teebird is different but I threw it harder. I also didn't throw the roc3 hard in this video and yet it turned over.

https://youtu.be/0uMuCLZ3bx4
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Both seemed to be equally flat and I don't think it is OAT. Here is a video of me throwing the Roc3, a BT hard harp, and a very beat in teebird (in that order). I realize that the speed of the teebird is different but I threw it harder. I also didn't throw the roc3 hard in this video and yet it turned over.

https://youtu.be/0uMuCLZ3bx4
I don't think it's your form, Doc. I think you just got a lemon. I've had five different Roc3's now, and even my OATy forehand, none of them flipped like that.

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