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Old 07-04-2013, 04:33 PM
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Currently the Am Payout requirement for A Tiers is 110+%.

Is it just me, or is this severely reduced? I feel like it used to be around 125+% for B Tiers and 150+% for A Tiers... Now it goes 85-100-110 (from C-A). Is it just my imagination, or have those numbers gone down quite a bit? I was looking at results of a local amateur A Tier and the payouts looked really skimpy to me, so I went to the PDGA page to check and saw that...

Am I crazy?
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Old 07-04-2013, 05:23 PM
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Personally I don't think the PDGA should require payout for Ams because it is a huge expense for TDs
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Old 07-04-2013, 05:56 PM
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Can't speak for A-tier, but B-tier has been 100% for as long as I can recall.

A-tiers require a $25 players pack, which is part of the payout. So the prizes (payout for placing) can seem unexpectedly thin.
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the pdga has no business dictating payout percentages for amateurs.
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Old 07-04-2013, 06:58 PM
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Ams should not be paid out except a trophy, players packs can be huge, but ams should not be concerned about getting more for performance, thats the idea of being an amateur.
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Ask a technical question about PDGA competition requirements, get people saying "Ams should be trophy only." Sweet.
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Personally I don't think the PDGA should require payout for Ams because it is a huge expense for TDs
I think Ams is were TDs make most of their $$. MSRP on merch is ~40% higher than bulk prices. At least in my experience as a former BCDC VP.
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As long as the players pack is solid, I see no problem with trophy only. I think that is the better model in the long run. Then again I am pretty tired of getting plastic I don't want. If you want to give funny money that is great, just give me time to spend it. I am also tired of events that don't give out trophies period. Write 1st place on a block of wood, I don't care, just have a trophy. Ha!
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As long as the players pack is solid, I see no problem with trophy only. I think that is the better model in the long run. Then again I am pretty tired of getting plastic I don't want. If you want to give funny money that is great, just give me time to spend it. I am also tired of events that don't give out trophies period. Write 1st place on a block of wood, I don't care, just have a trophy. Ha!
Do you get plastic you want in players packs?
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Currently the Am Payout requirement for A Tiers is 110+%.

Is it just me, or is this severely reduced? I feel like it used to be around 125+% for B Tiers and 150+% for A Tiers... Now it goes 85-100-110 (from C-A). Is it just my imagination, or have those numbers gone down quite a bit? I was looking at results of a local amateur A Tier and the payouts looked really skimpy to me, so I went to the PDGA page to check and saw that...

Am I crazy?

I think there are a lot of TDs who try to get their payout higher than that because the more AMs that play the more money for pros and thus more pros show up, which in turn brings more AMs out to play because they want to see the pros and so on and so forth.

But maybe now with more sponsors coming aboard and adding cash to payouts it isn't as necessary to attract bigger AM entries.

If you were a TD and you had a choice between dealing with 50 AMs at $50 an entry fee or being handed a check for $2500 to add cash to the payouts which would you rather do? Personally I'd rather take the check and not have to worry about as many players. Just makes my job easier. And considering most of the A-Tiers I have looked at recently had a nice bold line somewhere that said "Added Cash" that might be the reason for the reduced AM payouts.
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