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I'm curious what people make of this. I was looking at USDGC scores and noticed the huge difference between high and low round scores for individual players.

Someone has already noted that weather was a factor in final round, but that only applies to about 1/2 of the players I looked at, and there are always other factors in the final round, including being aggressive to move up.

I posted my spreadsheet at:

https://twitter.com/HouckDesign/stat...49379029209088

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Old 10-14-2020, 10:15 AM
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I'm curious what people make of this. I was looking at USDGC scores and noticed the huge difference between high and low round scores for individual players.

Someone has already noted that weather was a factor in final round, but that only applies to about 1/2 of the players I looked at, and there are always other factors in the final round, including being aggressive to move up.

I posted my spreadsheet at:

https://twitter.com/HouckDesign/stat...49379029209088

Thoughts?
I observed the same thing (again and again and...) and commented to Steve West yesterday. When you have several throw and distance penalty elements in hole designs with minimal or no immediate forward movement to a drop zone, you are more likely to see this scoring swing occur, even when the weather conditions are similar from round to round.
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Old 10-14-2020, 01:53 PM
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Here are the differences between high and low scores of each player (spread) by hole.

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Old 10-18-2020, 08:24 AM
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Ideas belong to no one. I doubt anyone here sincerely believes the folks at Innova were the first or only to imagine a triangular rim disc - so what is it that makes them noteworthy? Perseverance? Belief? Faith?

Interesting how with human beings, investment leads to conservatism, and frankly, I'm a bit surprised that so many on this thread implicitly discourage other's experiments including the cheerleading of same, as seems like not too long ago the triangular rim disc was 'wildly chaotic and innovative' - this will revolutionize the game! What's that company's name again?

Fair enough. Maybe we're not so different after all - all the same guy in another suit, playing hide and seek with each other...we all play our roles.
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:49 PM
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The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum—even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate - Noam Chomsky 1998

google: overton window

encouragement may the limit of some people's desired involvement - either way, it's never enough...
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:14 AM
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rhetorical questions need not be answered, my friend...
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rhetorical questions need not be answered, my friend...
But some have good answers worth repeating...
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