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Old 02-22-2020, 11:12 AM
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Second stage Ledgestone release will have ESP Wasps in it. I will stay up release night to make sure I get my 3.
Release hasn't been announced yet, has it?
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Old 02-22-2020, 11:20 AM
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Release hasn't been announced yet, has it?
Yes itīs announced

https://lisopen.com/articles/2020-ledgestone-le-discs
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Old 02-22-2020, 11:58 AM
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The date I can buy an ESP Wasp is....?

Didn't see it in your link
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Old 02-22-2020, 12:00 PM
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The date I can buy an ESP Wasp is....?

Didn't see it in your link
It says "We are aiming for February 1st for the first wave release and then approximately 2 month gaps for Waves 2 and 3." in the link

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Old 02-22-2020, 01:12 PM
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dome /= glide

i havent thrown a domey wasp in about 10 years but it was less stable and really reminiscent of a rock rather than a true wasp flight

I have a domey wasp and it is more overstable than my flat ones because of a taller shoulder. All are standard Z plastic.
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Old 02-22-2020, 01:16 PM
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I know Adam Hammes said he would have a limited amount of Swirly Z Wasps for pre-release sale at the Memorial Tournament next week. I can try to get my hands on one but I've not been so great with money lately...

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Old 02-22-2020, 05:09 PM
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I have a domey wasp and it is more overstable than my flat ones because of a taller shoulder. All are standard Z plastic.
good example
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:57 PM
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Alright, so my best Z Wasp found it's way home to me after being missing for three months (shocking, a successful disc return) I love this thing, it's a flat top 172g that will flip to flat and just coast forever. Now that I already replaced it with a new Z (that is max weight and beef), I'm going to ask the question that I'm sure I know the answer to already.

Is there a good way to cycle these? I love the feel and flight of mine, but the one I just got back overlaps my most OS Buzzz (it's actually a tick less stable than the Buzzz).

Should I just get my hands on some flat Rocs? I've never thrown them, but I don't want to get into an expensive or impossible cycle. I'm just not a huge fan of the naturally flippy mids (Meteor, Comet, Buzzz SS, etc.)

I will say that I absolutely love the two Wasps that I have and I wish I had one for every Mid shot.
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:07 PM
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Alright, so my best Z Wasp found it's way home to me after being missing for three months (shocking, a successful disc return) I love this thing, it's a flat top 172g that will flip to flat and just coast forever. Now that I already replaced it with a new Z (that is max weight and beef), I'm going to ask the question that I'm sure I know the answer to already.

Is there a good way to cycle these? I love the feel and flight of mine, but the one I just got back overlaps my most OS Buzzz (it's actually a tick less stable than the Buzzz).

Should I just get my hands on some flat Rocs? I've never thrown them, but I don't want to get into an expensive or impossible cycle. I'm just not a huge fan of the naturally flippy mids (Meteor, Comet, Buzzz SS, etc.)

I will say that I absolutely love the two Wasps that I have and I wish I had one for every Mid shot.
im a weirdo and an outlier however what works for me is

fresh z wasp for beef

beat wasp for traditional buzz shots/straighter shots

pro d buzz for hyzerflips and turn overs

not that i would ever do it but someone could get dx rock3 and they close enough to a wasp that you would get a great cycle going

older players used to use a z wasp as the os compliment to kcp or dx rock cycles
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:11 PM
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im a weirdo and an outlier however what works for me is

fresh z wasp for beef

beat wasp for traditional buzz shots/straighter shots

pro d buzz for hyzerflips and turn overs

not that i would ever do it but someone could get dx rock3 and they close enough to a wasp that you would get a great cycle going

older players used to use a z wasp as the os compliment to kcp or dx rock cycles
So the Wasp is closer to a Roc3 than a Roc? That makes sense with it being flat topped and a 5 speed
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