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Old 12-15-2010, 01:26 PM
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Default Who Has Ruined Concrete Tee Pads?

Has anyone used the 'wrong' kind of salt and had a teepad crack or erode because of it?

After doing some research it appears that ANY type of salt (Sodium, Calcium, Potassium, Magnesium) should be OK to use IF (and in DG this is a big IF) the concrete was installed correctly. Installed correctly meaning it was formulated, mixed, installed and finished correctly (no air bubbles) and given the proper time to cure before a thaw/freeze cycle.

So who has damaged a tee pad from salt? How do I know if the teepads at my course were installed correctly. Should I pay for the 'safe' salt even though it costs about 3 times as much as the regular?
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Old 12-15-2010, 02:03 PM
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I just re-read my original post and I should probably add this clarification. The salting would be done to help eliminate snow and ice buildup for winter golf..
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Yes

Virtually any kind of salt will corrode concrete if it's left there and not thoroughly washed off. (Think what happens to the precast sound walls along the highway)

The end result is that the teepads end up losing whatever rough texture you might have put on them, making them very slippery when wet.

Avoid using salt at all costs!! Use sand or kitty litter, or whatever - but never use salt on concrete.

The original teepads at Seneca Creek were ruined by using salt in the winter time. Want to play winter golf? Get out there with some muscle right after the storm and get them cleared off. Then throw down a bit of sand and call it a day.

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Old 12-15-2010, 02:56 PM
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Thanks for the feedback Craig. Unfortunately we have people play off the pads before we can get out and clear them off. The footprints compact the snow, turn to ice and make it almost impossible to shovel off the pads without some kind of chemical aid. Things are in pretty bad shape right now in Ann Arbor with the recent storm. About a foot of warm wet snow fell then the temperature dropped to the single digits.
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Sand is still a better alternative and actually will help break up the compacted snow/ice in an unexpected way. If you get playground sand - the fact that it is a little brown helps retain heat from the sun and helps create little pits in the compacted snow, making it easier to remove.

I know you gotts do what you gotta do - but salt will have a significant negative impact on the life of your tee pads.
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Like Craig said, DON'T USE SALT!!!!

Sounds like you already try and get out there and shovel before others compact the snow (good for you!! ), but if shoveling doesn't do the trick, sand works pretty well. The other option is just taking casual relief and throwing to the side of the pads (if they are really icy).
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I heard salt was ok after several years of curing.
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I heard salt was ok after several years of curing.
Why risk it?
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Why risk it?
To prevent broken limbs? I dont know, I'm just repeating what I was told.

Here's an intersting study. http://www.ctre.iastate.edu/pubs/sem...cody/index.htm
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To prevent broken limbs? I dont know, I'm just repeating what I was told.

Here's an intersting study. http://www.ctre.iastate.edu/pubs/sem...cody/index.htm
No, no, I understand why you'd want to salt. My feeling is, unless you have the explicit permission of the park department (or whoever is the owner of the course) you shouldn't engage in an activity (spreading salt) that may or may not damage the tee pads.

If you think that it's okay to spread salt, but are unsure, you run the risk ruining the teepads, and that's just not cool.
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