SQUATCH Legend!

[Emoney]

Originally Posted by ODRB

This is dumb. I’m done.

Quitter....

But you do have less and less of a point the more you post. So good call.

By your ridiculous post above, most bags are knockoffs of Grip....including your precious Pound.

[ODRB]

Originally Posted by Emoney

Quitter....

But you do have less and less of a point the more you post. So good call.

By your ridiculous post above, most bags are knockoffs of Grip....including your precious Pound.

Pound construction is not even similar to Grip.

Both great bags and companies. Who put in the work.

Your ridiculously big red shoes are showing.

[ODRB]

Originally Posted by ODRB

Your ridiculously big red shoes are showing.

Swoosh. Totally legit.

[jakebake91]

Originally Posted by ODRB

It’s a knockoff, plain and simple. This is dumb. I’m done.

Originally Posted by ODRB

Pound construction is not even similar to Grip.

Both great bags and companies. Who put in the work.

Your ridiculously big red shoes are showing.

That lasted long.


Follow up question. How do you know that this company purchased a Pound bag a few months ago? Did they pay for it with their company card? Was it shipped to the address of their office? Legit curious.

[txmxer]

Originally Posted by jakebake91

That lasted long.


Follow up question. How do you know that this company purchased a Pound bag a few months ago? Did they pay for it with their company card? Was it shipped to the address of their office? Legit curious.

I second this. Far from a bag expert. I carry a $15 lunch box style most times.

But there are a lot of chains of explicit knowledge of what transpired. That should be validated.

[txmxer]

They do look like a knock off.

[wolfhaley]

Originally Posted by txmxer

They do look like a knock off.

I'm not trying to get involved in the back and forth here. But I agree. Looks pretty much identical to me.

[zontar]

I could never afford a Pound anyway. an Ounce is really plenty for me.....

[uncle pennybags]

Originally Posted by ODRB

But if the whole bag works the same, and is constructed in the same way, and it shares identical stylistic elements, even if it’s 1” wider or shorter, it’s still a copy. Even if they sew a phone pocket into the side. Or add a key clip. Still a copy. In my mind and under US law.

A swoosh of slightly tweaked dimensions still violates Nike’s IP. A Gateway Wizard stamped to look like an old Innova CE stamp still violates Innova’s IP. A “POLEX” still violates Rolex IP, even with the slight tweak.

Stitch by stitch and panel by panel refers to how it’s constructed, not the exact type of thread or shape of one corner.

It’s a knockoff, plain and simple. This is dumb. I’m done.

I work in the RV industry. The whole get a competitors product...see how they did something...make our own version of it...profit, is basically how the industry works these days. Unless somebody did something really egregious like make a trailer with silver skin and call it a Waterstream it's just a normal Tuesday.

[HyooMac]

If anyone is interested, Doth Savek is posting a lot more details about his impressions of the bag in the Disc Golf Podcast Slack group (go to "Throwstufatstuff . com" and join the Slack group, subgroup #bagtalk).

It's interesting because the owner and son of owner of Squatch are active in the conversation thread there. I offer this up not because I think anyone's mind will be changed, but because it's conversation about the details of design and construction by people who have touched the product.

One of the things I noticed in Doth's video was how much the Squatch sags when it's full. I've never noticed that with Octos - but then, I haven't really looked for it either.

Doth commented on in the Slack was how his back could feel the edges of the outside-most discs in the bottom section of the Squatch, much more so than the Octo, and I think he wondered if that would be a long term comfort issue (I think he pointed to the difference in design or padding between the two as the thing that made the difference).

He had really good things to say about the construction of the straps on the Squatch, even in comparison to the Octo.

I realize this doesn't address the main argument here about stealing IP, and that's not my intent. And while Doth has pretty great experience with golf bags, it's just one guy's opinion after all.


Speaking of one guy's opinions, here are my particulars:

I currently alternate between a Revolution Carolina Team bag and a previous version of the UPD Rebel, which now pretty much lives in my Zuca LG cart. I love both these bags because I think they represent top quality in the $200+ category (and I prefer the design of both to Grip bags).

I have an old Fossa Skinny, and I think the new Skinny represents great quality in the $100+ category

I have a Fade Crunchbox and and Innova lunchbox for travel

My first bag was a Wall City lunchbox that rotted away after 10+ years