#221  
Old 06-05-2019, 09:19 PM
Zphix Zphix is offline
Par Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 247
Niced 15 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Working on it man!

I'm definitely getting there finally. If I'm not mistaken, when the upper body leads the throw it restricts the range of motion in the right hip.

I'm focusing a lot more on feeling the tilt of my spine/lower spine compress (at least it feels like it compresses) when I plant. There are some throws where nothing feels obvious or powerful but those are the throws where my putters stay on the line, the nose angle in the shot plane doesn't change, and I get maybe 320(ish) out of my Judges.

Anyway - if there's a question here it's going to be should you feel your spine compress into the plant?
Sponsored Links
Reply With Quote
  #222  
Old 06-05-2019, 09:37 PM
sidewinder22's Avatar
sidewinder22 sidewinder22 is offline
* Ace Member *
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Creeping Creek DGC
Years Playing: 13
Courses Played: 219
Posts: 14,629
Niced 2,490 Times in 1,557 Posts
Default

Not sure I'd say it that way, might be the way you feel/perceive it because you are not used to it.

I feel the G-forces compressing my whole body during the throw like the Graviton ride and have to stiffen posture/core against them to avoid collapsing/falling and maintain upright balance.
Reply With Quote
  #223  
Old 06-15-2019, 08:01 AM
Zphix Zphix is offline
Par Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 247
Niced 15 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Reply With Quote
  #224  
Old 06-15-2019, 02:04 PM
sidewinder22's Avatar
sidewinder22 sidewinder22 is offline
* Ace Member *
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Creeping Creek DGC
Years Playing: 13
Courses Played: 219
Posts: 14,629
Niced 2,490 Times in 1,557 Posts
Default

I highly recommend finding a parking lot/concrete tee to throw from instead of grass. And video from behind the tee, so you can see your balance or lack of in a different dimension.
Reply With Quote
  #225  
Old 06-16-2019, 08:52 AM
Zphix Zphix is offline
Par Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 247
Niced 15 Times in 14 Posts
Default

RIP IT APART :P

Reply With Quote
  #226  
Old 06-17-2019, 12:34 AM
sidewinder22's Avatar
sidewinder22 sidewinder22 is offline
* Ace Member *
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Creeping Creek DGC
Years Playing: 13
Courses Played: 219
Posts: 14,629
Niced 2,490 Times in 1,557 Posts
Default

You are striding too leftward, leading with the foot instead of hips/weight/CoG, and jamming into the front leg and everything goes around your front side instead of landing balanced on the front leg and pivoting thru centered.
Reply With Quote
  #227  
Old 06-17-2019, 11:58 PM
Zphix Zphix is offline
Par Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 247
Niced 15 Times in 14 Posts
Default

SW,

I was analyzing as soon as I posted that one - really happy to see that you posted a side-by-side though. I've got a few points/questions?

1) It looks like I lead with my foot because I turn back too early - at that point I can either stagger out (like I'm doing now) or come over the top (like I was doing), right? Noticed that when you said Simon does his X-step while looking at this target so I tried a few throws doing that.

2) It feels like there comes a point in the throw where you stop trying to manipulate and your body's natural momentum just takes over - I think that happens during the stride? It just feels really fast - I don't think I can put that another way.
Reply With Quote
  #228  
Old 06-18-2019, 12:27 AM
sidewinder22's Avatar
sidewinder22 sidewinder22 is offline
* Ace Member *
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Creeping Creek DGC
Years Playing: 13
Courses Played: 219
Posts: 14,629
Niced 2,490 Times in 1,557 Posts
Default

1. I agree the cause is turning back early/changes balance. The effect is you end up too late driving your hips forward laterally(diagonal in this case) in the stride. You can see Simon's hips moving/shifting more diagonal quicker/earlier in the stride he lands more upright and balanced on the front leg. You are still kind of going over the top/jamming up there.

2. Sounds about right, faster falling into the plant, maybe a little out of control/off balance? My backswing is pretty loose and free wheeling, I'm not really manipulating the pendulum. The better your balance gets with practice the more control you have. As a former pitcher I have great balance on my FH windup, but when I tried to switch lefty and wind up, I quickly realized my muscles had no control of my balance moving the opposite direction and had to go fast or fall over, and had nowhere the same amount of leverage moving forward in the stride and was just a matter of practicing the motion to gain the muscle memory and balance to make that move stronger.
Reply With Quote
  #229  
Old 06-24-2019, 12:10 AM
Zphix Zphix is offline
Par Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 247
Niced 15 Times in 14 Posts
Default

#2 - Yeah, good call on still being off balance. I've been fixing the X-step and leading with COG to stay more lateral and I'm getting bigger distance and more accuracy. I realized that any difference that feels "noticeable" in your body is actually a pretty big move/mistake on camera. I'm also feeling that burst of inertia in the disc when I plant and am FINALLY rotating on my heel a little bit - still doesn't feel perfect but it's finally there. So, I'm just going to keep working on cleaning this up for a little while.

That aside, do you have any video resources on FH mechanics? Mine is maxing out at like 270 and very often coming out on giant spike hyzer angles -_-
Reply With Quote
 

  #230  
Old 06-24-2019, 08:13 PM
sidewinder22's Avatar
sidewinder22 sidewinder22 is offline
* Ace Member *
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Creeping Creek DGC
Years Playing: 13
Courses Played: 219
Posts: 14,629
Niced 2,490 Times in 1,557 Posts
Default


Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need some suggestions on improving my form Fergie89 Form Analysis/Critique 7 12-05-2016 05:17 PM
Pointers please: on improving driving form Judson100 Form Analysis/Critique 5 08-14-2015 02:12 PM
Suggestions for improving form brichert Form Analysis/Critique 4 12-10-2014 08:14 PM
form improving? LookIhitAtREE Form Analysis/Critique 7 03-17-2012 11:07 PM
Please rip apart my driving form - improving rhbh - Thanks! mitsurugi Form Analysis/Critique 7 08-03-2011 06:45 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.