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Old 05-25-2014, 04:55 PM
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So I've play around 60 courses in 4 states and I've noticed Pars are very inconsistent. I've seen courses with no marked pars at all but the locals just play everything as a par 3. That's the most common that I've seen in Colorado atleast. Then I've seen courses with comical pars. Like a par 4 on a 300' slightly technical shot. And I've seen par 2s which IMO are just a joke. I know out in the Midwest and the east there's a lot of par 4 and par 5s but how can you decide. I know there are many variables but if you find yourself on a course with no marked par how do you play it? And if you see par that totally disagree with do you just ignore them and make your own? Is there a general distance that might make you say "ok this is a par 4"?
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Old 05-25-2014, 05:12 PM
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(1) Yes, they are very inconsistent. There are several competing arguments as to how par should be decided, and some mystery as to how certain pars are decided.

(2) There is a whole segment on this discussion board somewhere, about "par".

(3) Be forewarned that this is a contentious subject, as you'll soon see.
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David, I was prepping an item list too! :

My personal run-down on the topic of 'par':

1) prepare yourself for some arguments and some links to where this gets discussed at least ten times a year

2) in my opinion, your total score on an entire course, compared to your previous scores on that same course, may be the only valid measure worthy of your focus. Next might be your personal average or best score on a particular hole. The last thing to think about is using 'par' as a comparison to others, or an 'ideal' on any given hole. The skill sets of the top pros are bordering on superhuman. Most disc golfers in the world will shoot threes, fours and fives on holes they routinely deuce

3) the pdga has some pretty good guidelines if you want to discuss amongst yourselves

Hope the last item is useful, though!
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Old 05-25-2014, 05:16 PM
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David, I was prepping an item list too! :
I thought I'd just toss that out without getting into the actual arguments, because it's a holiday weekend and I don't want to spend it all debating "par", which I'm likely to do if I get started.
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your total score on an entire course, compared to your previous scores on that same course, may be the only valid measure worthy of your focus. Next might be your personal average or best score on a particular hole.
That's tough to do on a course you don't frequent.
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there are many ways to determine par and many more ways to argue about it
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Sorry guys didn't realize it was such a discussed topic. I guess I'll just start ignoring par unless its a tournament.
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its actually a good topic Bob......and don't worry about the wackos who get upset on here because you asked a good question on a disc golf course forum

I go by the formula (number of reasonable throws it takes to reach 10m + 1)
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If its a good course where the par makes sense the the par elfs made the par and if its a bad course with screwy par then par gremlins probably set the par.

That and science and math and magic.
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