One leg drill, stupid question.

[RoDeO]

https://youtu.be/JTK255c1fF8

Here is how the hips naturally rotate. Im a LHBH so this video shows me pulling the imaginary rope from right to left. As I begin my pull my hips point to the right but then as I pull the right hip begins to rotate forward into brace. As I begin to pull notice the importance, force and rotation of the right (rear for LHBH) leg and hip provide into the brace.

I hope this helps.

[timothy42b]

What we need here is Dr. Scott Lynn with his fancy equipment analyzing some disc golfers.

I wonder if he could be talked into doing it.

[RoDeO]

Here is a video of me starting my lawnmower left handed. Again, notice the force and rotation the rear leg and hip make into brace.

https://youtu.be/ktZzN6l8TIg

[discerdoo]

Decisions, decisions.....do I take the time to view rodeo or sidewinder videos? Tuff call.

[sidewinder22]

Originally Posted by timothy42b

I am not so sure that tennis backhand is correct especially on the spin part - it seems in direct conflict with high speed video which shows the ball over the net before that wrist rotation occurs. Regardless though he does have a smooth swing and gets onto that forward leg.

But I would wonder about two things based on his video.

He wants the angle of wrist and racket to remain until release. Sounds reasonable, that's like lag in golf or throwing from the far side of the disc. But is it held deliberately with muscle, or naturally by the geometry of the motion? Same thing with the release - he implies it is a deliberate action rather than caused by the mechanics. Maybe it can be done either way - see Homer Kelley maybe.

Second thing, his angle is between forearm and racket, while ours is between forearm and disc rim, but we also bend the elbow. He doesn't (there is a method in ball golf that does, but they don't bend the wrist). There's a theoretical advantage to a straight arm swing, in that shoulder elbow and wrist are forced to be coplanar, and maybe disc golf beginners could benefit from starting that way?

This is a great read:
http://www.revolutionarytennis.com/step8.html

Ron Convers teaches the straight arm technique.
https://discgolfanswerman.com/blog/5...golf-distance/
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=137392

[wolfhaley]

Originally Posted by discerdoo

Decisions, decisions.....do I take the time to view rodeo or sidewinder videos? Tuff call.

Well it depends what you want for the end result. Good form for throwing a disc? Sidewinder. Going round and round? Listen to Ratt like the rest of us. Round(ing) and Round(ing) is free to watch on the interwebz. I'm more of a Whitesnake guy so I'll leave that up to you.

[sidewinder22]

Originally Posted by RoDeO

The rear leg and hip has to rotate inward in order for the rotation to begin.

Outward.

[timothy42b]

Originally Posted by sidewinder22

This is a great read:
http://www.revolutionarytennis.com/step8.html

Ron Convers teaches the straight arm technique.
https://discgolfanswerman.com/blog/5...golf-distance/
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=137392

I threw straight arm yesterday, had my best day on the local short course ever. (Bad putting meant score wasn't great but it wasn't bad either.)

I did this because I had the theory that with a bent elbow my disc maybe floats above and below the swing plane inconsistently, leaking power. With a straight arm everything is on the swing plane. It feels like there would be more power if I bent the elbow and was coordinated enough to do it right.

That tennis site you linked to has the upper arm to shoulder angle varying (flapping?) during the stroke. That seems somewhat contradictory to what we talk about here. Dunno though. I want to see some force plate data on one of our top throwers.

[RoDeO]

Originally Posted by sidewinder22

Outward.

In this video I link, at the moment of brace (where the weight has shifted) to the front leg, how much rotation of the hips have already taken place? This is where the real rubber meets the road

https://youtu.be/BmZnUEsFnbw

[timothy42b]

This was interesting

https://carolinas.pga.com/wp-content...g-Catalyst.pdf

Check out those two illustrations on the first page.

Think we could get this guy to do a disc golf analysis?