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Old 01-09-2020, 07:05 AM
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I heard about a bizarre incident last year at a Master's only tournament. The story goes some guy from out of town in his upper 20's used another member's PDGA number that was master's age and won the division I was playing. It was a huge field. So, I never met him or stuck around for awards. How accurate that is, I don't know. But, I heard they were punished. I feel like we deal with enough dumb asses in disc golf. Hearing that really deters me from participating.
This probably happens more than you think. The PDGA kindly and publicly provides a full catalogue of PDGA numbers, names, and hometowns, allowing easy selection of an alternate identity.
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Old 01-09-2020, 08:53 AM
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I remember the offenses being listed a few years ago. Almost all of them were non payment of fees at that time. A couple fir possessing alcohol. I’m not sure when they stopped listing the offenses on the report, but I’m sure they used to be listed. So I think most of the people still listed from back then have no reason to expect it not to be listed.
You are correct that the previous practice was to do this.

However there was absolutely a middle period where the practice clearly was not to do it.

Membership has been pretty vocal about wanting to know the ranges of penalties and a general idea of what was committed, so this was a step in the direction to do so.
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Old 01-09-2020, 09:00 AM
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This probably happens more than you think. The PDGA kindly and publicly provides a full catalogue of PDGA numbers, names, and hometowns, allowing easy selection of an alternate identity.
While in theory it is possible I doubt it. It would have been fairly easy to do prior to the PDGA being online but now not so much.
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Old 01-09-2020, 09:06 AM
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While in theory it is possible I doubt it. It would have been fairly easy to do prior to the PDGA being online but now not so much.
(speaking as Robert PDGA member not a PDGA DC Chair. Also adding I'm not confirming or denying this has ever happened)


A current PDGA member in good standing using another member's number would be pretty tricky the way the whole process works now. DGScene and PDGA linked, publishing upcoming events, the PDGA using the PDGA number not the reported name at sign up, etc. As a TD I've had someone transpose their pdga number when signing up and then my local C Tier in Raleigh NC suddenly had someone playing from Montana on the sign up sheet. Pretty easy to spot.

The situation I'm much more concerned with is someone posing as a non member. Since we do not require PDGA membership for B tiers and below, anyone can claim to be a non-member and pay the $10 fee. This would include someone who is suspended or someone who is say rated 940 and wants to play MA2 or someone who is 38 and wants to play masters.

I believe PDGA membership should be required to play anything but leagues for this and other reasons.

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Old 01-09-2020, 09:44 AM
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The situation I'm much more concerned with is someone posing as a non member. Since we do not require PDGA membership for B tiers and below, anyone can claim to be a non-member and pay the $10 fee. This would include someone who is suspended or someone who is say rated 940 and wants to play MA2 or someone who is 38 and wants to play masters.

I believe PDGA membership should be required to play anything but leagues for this and other reasons.
Still don't understand why the PDGA just doesn't take this easy approach: Anyone can play and win (a trophy) without a PDGA membership, but they forfeit all cash, merch winnings to the next player.

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Old 01-09-2020, 09:45 AM
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Still don't understand why the PDGA just doesn't take this easy approach: Anyone can play and win (a trophy) without a PDGA membership, but they forfeit all cash, merch winnings to the next player.
Pretty good concept and a good middle ground. I like it.

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Old 01-09-2020, 10:44 AM
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Still don't understand why the PDGA just doesn't take this easy approach: Anyone can play and win (a trophy) without a PDGA membership, but they forfeit all cash, merch winnings to the next player.
So they'll be paying $45+ to compete for nothing other than the chance at a trophy?
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Old 01-09-2020, 11:21 AM
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Oh, no, it's the mythical non-PDGA member out to lie, cheat, and steal his way to the tens of dollars worth of prizes that plagues 0.000000001% of tournaments throughout the world.

Won't somebody please think of the children?!?

Another solution in search of a problem. Don't we have enough of these already?

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Old 01-09-2020, 11:35 AM
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So they'll be paying $45+ to compete for nothing other than the chance at a trophy?
Entry fee depends on the tournament. If they want to compete for earnings and prizes they should 100% pay the membership fee like all the other players are doing imop. Otherwise let them compete for the "experience" and let them walk away proud with a trophy.
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Old 01-09-2020, 11:51 AM
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Entry fee depends on the tournament. If they want to compete for earnings and prizes they should 100% pay the membership fee like all the other players are doing imop. Otherwise let them compete for the "experience" and let them walk away proud with a trophy.
Yup that’s why I put the + in there. I’ve never seen an MPO division that cost less than $30 to play in, plus the non member fee, so I should’ve said “$40+”. My bad.

Guess we just don’t agree. I personally have found no reasons to join the PDGA over the last 4-5 years I’ve competed. A rule change like this would make me never compete in local C tiers ever again which would be sad for me.

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