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Old 02-07-2019, 10:17 AM
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The folly in your argument is the notion that most viewers are only watching Jomez because it's Jomez and not because they've been showing the top cards at the top events in the game.

Honest question...you have one hour to watch disc golf coverage and a choice between final round lead card coverage of elite tournament X featuring McBeth, Wysocki, Barsby, and Ulibarri or final round third card coverage of the same event featuring Lizotte, McMahon, Heimberg, and Melton. You don't know the results yet. Which one will you watch? Unless you're a superfan of one of the four on the third card, you're most likely picking the lead card, no? Without even considering which channel it's on.

Content drives viewership, not the provider.
I'm gonna disagree. For me, I watch Jomez cause their coverage is great (they aren't the only ones) but mainly cause they knew their strengths and weaknesses and hired the best commentators. Their overall package is the best for me. I watch pretty much every thing they put out. CCDG is the same, again, for me.
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:18 AM
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I'm gonna disagree. For me, I watch Jomez cause their coverage is great (they aren't the only ones) but mainly cause they knew their strengths and weaknesses and hired the best [infomercial hosts]. Their overall package is the best for me. I watch pretty much every thing they put out. CCDG is the same, again, for me.
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:26 AM
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He stated clearly that "This is not a boycott", yet you title your thread 'Nate Sexton boycotting DGPT?' Why turn this into some kind of battle to take sides on? Seems like you did all the guessing.
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Eman is all about that clickbait title

I'm gonna cut Eman some slack. The whole everything has to be a controversy to get eyes is now the online norm, everyone does it. Frankly, it's getting old.

I like Nate, adult, I like Jomez, professional, I like Steve, savvy ahead of the curve. I wish he had kept Jomez, but I don't have to pay the bills. I'm deciding, based on output whether I will reup for patreon.

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Old 02-07-2019, 10:32 AM
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I'm gonna disagree. For me, I watch Jomez cause their coverage is great (they aren't the only ones) but mainly cause they knew their strengths and weaknesses and hired the best commentators. Their overall package is the best for me. I watch pretty much every thing they put out. CCDG is the same, again, for me.
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Ftfy
So, clearly you think you made a point. Um, there's a reason I wrote, for me. See, for me means that it's what I like and I how it impacts me. Clearly, for you it's different. Great. But I didn't need you to ftf me, since that isn't how it impacts me. Maybe you could try, "for me they seem like infomercial hosts, and I don't like that."?
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Old 02-07-2019, 11:19 AM
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Nate posted his full explanation after Eman made this thread. Nate's original post just said he wouldn't be playing DGPT events and more to come later.
So that makes it a little less of a jerk-move I guess. He should un-jerk the title and remove 'boycott' IMO. Should make for good pointless discussion anyway.

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Old 02-07-2019, 11:22 AM
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I'm gonna disagree. For me, I watch Jomez cause their coverage is great (they aren't the only ones) but mainly cause they knew their strengths and weaknesses and hired the best commentators. Their overall package is the best for me. I watch pretty much every thing they put out. CCDG is the same, again, for me.
So if, in my hypothetical, you could only watch one card and Jomez filmed the third card and random competent 3-camera media crew X filmed the lead card, you'd choose to watch the third card coverage? I really don't think that's typical.

I'm not saying anything against Jomez and the production they put together. It really is very good and arguably the best around. But I don't think they're approaching 100,000 subscribers as they are if they're not filming and publishing videos of the top tier tournaments featuring the very best in the game. They don't get where they are if they're publishing local B-tiers with players no one outside the immediate area would recognize, even if they had all the same bells and whistles (3 cameras, 1080p/60fps quality, Slomez, good commentary, etc). The content is the driver.

Is it disappointing that Jomez won't be covering DGPT tournaments? Sure. Is it the end of the world? No. Boycotting is dumb, whether it's viewers or players (to be clear, I'm quite certain Sexton is not boycotting anything). It's like boycotting the NBA if they moved their national broadcast from ABC to CBS. Maybe ABC did a great job, but in the end, are you watching to hear Mike Breen and Jeff Van Gundy call the game or to watch Lebron and Steph and Harden play the game?

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Old 02-07-2019, 11:59 AM
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I don’t have strong feelings about which events Nate plays, BUT as someone who watches a ton of events with Bigsexy commentary... Steve better get a couple of great commentators to make going without Jomez work. I watched almost every DGPT event, often with our neighbors like normal people watch a football game. Part of that is because of Nate and Jerms likeable and informative commentary.

If whoever they get isn’t as good...we will just keep watching Jomez.

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I for one will not be watching any Pro Tour coverage unless it comes from Jomez or CCDG. Third card, first card whatevs, it's all about the quality for me.

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Old 02-07-2019, 12:27 PM
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They don't get where they are if they're publishing local B-tiers with players no one outside the immediate area would recognize, even if they had all the same bells and whistles (3 cameras, 1080p/60fps quality, Slomez, good commentary, etc). The content is the driver.
This is truth. Pure Hyzer Productions was a great channel that had well known golfers in nearly every video, but with only covering regional b and c tiers they could not stay viable do to low view and sponsorship potential. CCDG seems to be the only crew with a working model to cover smaller events, wherein they get the tournaments on board covering expenses in hopes the coverage will grow said tourny.

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