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Current method (nose marking) 91 87.50%
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Old 04-04-2016, 06:27 PM
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Default Tail Marking - feedback wanted

"Tail marking" is a proposed change in how minis are used to mark. Instead of placing the
mini in front of the thrown disc, you align the tail of the mini with the tail of the
thrown disc. The result is that you have the same lie regardless of the marking method
chosen. The motivation for the idea is that a single throw has two possible lies. That
seems crazy to me.

The change was approved for the 2013 revision but vetoed by the Board. The Rules Committee
is working on a 2017 revision, and will again address the tail marking proposal. It is
very likely to be approved by the committee.

A summary of the case for it can be found at:

http://conraddamon.com/pdga/tail-marking.html

I'm curious to see what a wider audience of disc golfers thinks. Give it a try during
your next round. There's a decent chance that you'll end up using a mini only when
required (OB, lie above ground, etc). My opinion is that play flows better, as you end
up playing point-to-point by omitting the extra steps of marking with a mini (get the
mini out, bend down, put it in front of the disc, pick up the disc, put it in your bag).

What do you think?
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Old 04-04-2016, 07:10 PM
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why not very simply "marker placed to edge of thrown disc" ? Eliminate nose, tail, line of play thoughts and possible infraction with placement of marker.
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I only use a mini when I absolutely have to. They're annoying.
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One question I have is how would the rule be worded? There is a simplicity to marking the front edge of the disc and then removing the thrown disc where only one is being moved at a time. Would you place the mini on the thrown disc and then slide it out (while holding the mini in place so it doesn't move?).

The current mechanism only requires one hand to perform the actions of placing a mini. Would the new mechanism now require two? For some (I'm thinking of at least one local golfer) where that would be difficult.
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Old 04-04-2016, 08:53 PM
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The result is that you have the same lie regardless of the marking method
chosen. What do you think?
Conrad,
I agree that '...the lie (point) would be the same...' but then using a mini would LOSE you the diameter of the mini - instead of gaining you some ground (as using a mini now does), no? Somewhat of a wash....

Karl
Ps: since day 1, never liked the mini...wish we could find a way to get rid of it.
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Old 04-04-2016, 08:58 PM
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I rarely use a mini. I see this only being an issue for those mid range putts where every inch helps.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:02 PM
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I also agree with kiprucka and the op. It seems like it is doing both making the need to use a mini less needed and more of a pain in the ass when it is needed... Just leave it.
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Ps: since day 1, never liked the mini...wish we could find a way to get rid of it.
Could do the ol disc flip maneuver instead.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:09 PM
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Quote:
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I agree that '...the lie (point) would be the same...' but then using a mini would LOSE you the diameter of the mini - instead of gaining you some ground (as using a mini now does), no?
No:

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Instead of placing the
mini in front of the thrown disc, you align the tail of the mini with the tail of the
thrown disc
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In effect, you stand the thrown disc vertically on the edge farthest from the target and place the mini touching the edge of the edge of the thrown disc closest to the target.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:11 PM
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Ah, thank you coupe. Obviously I'm not reading well today....
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I honestly don't care. The current rule works fine, I can totally see the logic of the revision. I kinda like the idea that there should only be 1 possible lie regardless of if you Mark or not. But I don't think its a big deal either way
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