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Which is better, the Beast or the Valkyrie?

The Beast is 10,5,-2,2; the Valk is 9,4,-2,2. If you had to bag one or the other, which would you choose?
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I've thrown both, the Valk is in my bag the Beast is not. But I'm getting my bag to speed 9 and under.

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I'd take the Beast, but only if it was a Beast X. Not the Beast L. The Beast X is a nice driver. Somewhat understable. Good S curves with a reliable late fade.

I hated the Beast L. I felt like it was a totally different disc than the Beast X and I never liked it. It seemed flippy and clunky.

On the course I used a champion Beast X for years. Perfect disc for shots out to about 400'. The Beast would take all the arm I had and perform.

I have nothing against the Valk, but I don't find it as useful. If I'm throwing speed 9 I want something with more beef to it (Thunderbird).
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I've thrown both, the Valk is in my bag the Beast is not. But I'm getting my bag to speed 9 and under.
I think most players would benefit from using Speed 9's & under.

I prefer the Valkyrie because it's lower speed makes it more controllable. I get a lot done on the course with a Max weight champion (FH) & a Star (BH) in the lower 170's.

My favorite Valkyrie is the production glow champion that were out in recent years. They were flat & on the 9/4/-1/2 spectrum. Really hoping Innova makes more of them. Let's all email Innova together to make this happen.

Also, save yourself from filtering through the Beast X vs L headache. Valkyries are Valkyries. From there just decide your weight & plastic.

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ive thrown valks that were fb stability and ive thrown valks that were flip machines

i never hunted down beasts to throw them but i remember the difficulty of trying to guess is it x or l (older throwers know about this more)

hmmm the common denominator seems to be innovas consistency??????/

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My favorite Valkyrie is the production glow champion that were out in recent years. They were flat & on the 9/4/-1/2 spectrum. Really hoping Innova makes more of them. Let's all email Innova together to make this happen.
There are Star Valks out there that were pretty flat and very overstable, especially relative to 'normal' Valks. I know because I got one of them, and could never beat that thing in, despite hot water 'tuning' and throwing it onto asphalt and into brick walls. So watch out for those flat-top Star Valks, and you should get what you're looking for.
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I think most players would benefit from using Speed 9's & under.

I prefer the Valkyrie because it's lower speed makes it more controllable. I get a lot done on the course with a Max weight champion (FH) & a Star (BH) in the lower 170's.

My favorite Valkyrie is the production glow champion that were out in recent years. They were flat & on the 9/4/-1/2 spectrum. Really hoping Innova makes more of them. Let's all email Innova together to make this happen.

Also, save yourself from filtering through the Beast X vs L headache. Valkyries are Valkyries. From there just decide your weight & plastic.


Agree. Innova should have discontinued Beasts rather than change them as dramatically as they did.

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There are Star Valks out there that were pretty flat and very overstable, especially relative to 'normal' Valks. I know because I got one of them, and could never beat that thing in, despite hot water 'tuning' and throwing it onto asphalt and into brick walls. So watch out for those flat-top Star Valks, and you should get what you're looking for.
I've never had a really beefy Valk, but I've sure seen some Vikings that were. I'm talking like Firebird overstable.

If/when I throw Valks (which is super seldom) I want ones with some dome, and heavy. Lightweight Valks are uselessly flippy.

Same goes for Beasts. Make them domey and heavy.
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