Old 06-18-2009, 03:14 AM
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Default Regulars on your favorite course?

My hobby lately is to head out to my favorite home course early, work on my round, break out the plastic shopping bags and clean trash along the way. I average 2-4 bags of trash per round, mostly beer cans but lots of water bottles and other. The focus of this post is beer cans. I've included a list of the course regulars - you've undoubtedly seen them at your favorite course.

Unfortunately, I am sure you are familiar with these - feel free to add any that I might be forgetting:

the artiste - this is the person who left an empty can hanging "artfully" on a tree limb or positioned on top of a basket or otherwise purposely placed somewhere other than the trash receptacle. They're very impressed with their creativity but we've all seen it before. Lots of artistes out there unfortunately.

the sorta eco-conscious - this is the person who cares enough about the environment and/or respects the beauty of the course enough to attempt to hide their can from view, i.e., under a stump, or deep in a bush, but is not committed enough to just take it to the next trash can. This actually creates more work for the person who catches a glimpse of the can walking up to the teebox and feels compelled to pick it up. In 1000 years if unfound that can is just going to be dirt anyway.

the lazy bastard - this is the person who threw their can near a trash can or litters on a hole (or park common area) which has an available trash can(s) on it. No attempt is made to hide the trash. From what I can tell some of these attempts (especially near the parking lot) are probably out a car window or from the back of a truck. Good attempts but sorta like that 30' putt on 18.

the double/multiples - this is a head scratcher for me personally. This is when I am two or three bad shots deep in the woods and find 2 cans of the same brand within 12 inches of each other. Maybe someone was drinking a beer when they threw their disc to this point and decided to slam another when they saw their lie? - don't know. They usually leave nice plastic behind - unmarked and near new.

the rat bastard (aka the P.O.S.) - this is the person who made a conscious attempt to throw their can deep into a place where no one could get it (without a machete and a full body suit) this is probably the worst offense in my book. It would be much easier for everyone if they just dumped their can on the ground in the middle the course for someone to get to it easily. Maybe they're trying to impress their friends. Cans stashed in the middle of poison ivy apply.

the Sally - this is the person who threw their can in the bushes with 2 or 3 sips remaining. Finish your beer Sally. Maybe this adds weight to the can which allows them propel it into a place where "no one would find it" - that just moves them to another category. See the rat bastard (AKA the P.O.S.) above. Not much better.

the glass dick - an unfortunate crackhead reference but applies beautifully. This is the litterbug who left empty glass bottles on the course. I usually feel great picking these up intact, because once they are broken they leave their mark for years. Usually found in pairs or multiples.

the responsible litterbug - this is the person who left his/her empty in a spot near the teebox where it can be easily picked up. This act will often prompt others of his/her kind to follow suit - after all, a neatly piled pyramid of aluminum cans in one area look almost as good as if there were none. Perfect place for a trash can but it's expensive to empty a trash can every day for every hole on the course. Downside - sometimes the pyramid isn't so organized or maybe it grows for a week.

Brands Found - in order of prevalence:
Keystone Light
Bud Light
Miller Lite
Other 5-10%
Dos XX

Water bottles, cigarette butts, energy drinks, etc. are the subject of another thread.

I feel compelled to speak my mind about trash on the course, because at a minimum I make a point to pack my trash out every time. If I don't leave anything behind and I don't screw up the scorecard, I've had a good round.

I don't want to come off preachy but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't passionate about this issue. I do want to get some ideas spurred by the dg community as how to attack this problem. A clean beach campaign in Santa Cruz, CA (Pack your Trash) was started by some surfers many years ago and is now a full on operation. They have made a huge impact - younger generations look down upon littering the beach.

It is a crime to play courses, my favorites, your favorites, only to see them degraded with trash. It's a huge, often losing battle, I will agree with you. It's not insurmountable.

I have yet to see or confront anyone littering but I'm not really looking, I'm too busy picking up after them. I suppose if it's ever in my face I will feel obligated to say something like I suppose any other good disc golfer would. I've never seen a blatant littering that I can remember. I try to pick up whatever is in my path (within reason) and I focus on the course and surrounding areas mainly. The rest of the greater park, parking lot, etc. that is easily accessible by park staff I leave to those folks. I just go play 1 again and pull out another bag and go about my business.

If I am playing with buddies, etc. or any time a moderate pace or better is required, I will only pick up stuff that is just wrong. On the teebox, on or around the basket, etc. It's tough for me to resist breaking out a bag and collecting cans when they are littered around the teebox, basket or the middle of the fairway, especially if and when I am just standing around. I have no problem letting people play through when I am picking up trash or any time for that matter (within reason). I make a good effort to be conscious of my pace of play at all times.

I would also say that the garbage cans are regularly about half full which means that a good percentage of people get it. That is encouraging. I would love to hear what has worked at your course.

I think there's a huge opportunity for the PDGA to jump on this as both a cause and a means to clean up that bad DG reputation. They could find a way to offer incentive during play (such as 1 throw for picking up 5 pieces of trash - i.e. mulligan or from total), possibly +1 or +2 for littering. If adopted by clubs this could be a DG tradition that would separate it from other sports and improve it's character. A cleaner course would only be one thing that would come as a result of something like this, but there I go being naively idealistic again.

I will update as this project continues, my ace count still remains at 1 (1993) but I feel great on almost every throw.
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:31 AM
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Great list. I do my best to remember to put a plastic bag in my disc golf bag before leaving for a course so I can pick up some litter along the way. Kind of a big deal for a guy like me too, I'm a little germaphobic but as soon as you work a job that requires you to pick up chewed on cherry stems off tables and chicken wing bones off the floor that beings to change.

I do have an edition to the list.

King of the Douchebags
This fool wants to show all the other dbags that purposely litter that he is far more committed to the cause then they. To do this he flexes his power and makes his territory by kicking over a filled trashcan. Because it is far more impressive and time-effective to empty a trash can on the ground than to produce your own garbage for individual littering.

I can't say this is a regular thing but it has happened at my home course. I'm also sad to say that after coming upon the scene I picked it all up by my lonesome while about 6 other players literally watched me pick it up.

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Old 06-18-2009, 06:23 AM
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I nominate:

The Hillbilly Orgy- Kind of like doubles but where there are half a dozen to a dozen empties in a couple square feet. How the hell is this even possible? What kind of lame beer drinker are you to stand in the woods and guzzle a six pack? Damn kids....get off my lawn!!!
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:01 AM
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unfortunately, i have seen this problem for years and years, and what seems to work best is to clean up after the scumbags..i truly believe trash cans are more of a problem on a course than a help...i also believe posting warnings of fines for littering MIGHT deter said scumbags from droping their butts or cans..butts seem to be the biggest problem at most courses i see because they are small and outnumber beer trash 10-1...i just pick 'em up without really thinking about it now..if everyone that played a round would pick up a few, it helps tremendously
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:26 AM
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I agree.... all three of my home courses have plenty of recipticles.....but yet cans are still not placed in them.....if a hole doesn't have a can the next one usually does.....take your stuff with you and dump it in the next available container is the polite thing to do for yourself, others and the respect of the park and game......
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:48 AM
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I feel like I shouldn't think this thread is funny.... but I do.
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:17 AM
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I hear you with this struggle. I'm a college student, and while it is great that disc golf is becoming more popular, the people on your list outnumber the rest of us 10 to 1 on my home course. It has been so bad as an old tv smashed open on a tee pad, leaving bits of plastic, metal, and glass everywhere...

Not that the cans don't, but its the glass bottles that really get to me. I play barefoot for most of the summer (nothing feels better than grass under your feet) but people usually take the extra effort to break their glass bottles on the course (nothing feels worse than glass under your feet). It has gotten so bad that I fear the course may get closed soon.
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:29 AM
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great post by the way milow
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:43 AM
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haha my friends and I had this very discusion last night. We played 2 rounds at a local course that is at a campground. Mainers in general tend to not be the littering type, but when people come to camp here from away.... yikes.

This course has trash cans and recycling bins at every other hole. 1st round we pick around 10 or 12 cans up. There only one other group on course all evening(way behind us) and sure enough, come round 2 there were another 8 or so left for us to deal with.

If I can bring myself to pick up someone else trash, while not leaving behind any of my own, then why is it so hard for them to take care of their own?
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:45 AM
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In my opinion, this problem is not indigenous to DG courses. The front of my property speaks volumes to my point. This is a society of scumbags(not everyone of course) with no respect for the world around them. I have about 850' of wooded road frontage, and I can't keep up with the discarded garbage from the lazy POS's that don't give a crap about anything remotely responsible regarding the disposal of cans, bottles and fast food bags. I myself, have often thought of bringing 55 gal trash bags with me on the course to pickup or at least help to organize the cans and bottles. After reading your post, I will make this a priority with my next trip to the course. I really admire your conviction.
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