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Old 06-26-2019, 11:24 PM
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Basically what the title says, has the coverage of the best of the best, warped some viewers expectations as to how they should perform? I played league with a guy today that was getting upset for not parking every reachable hole. And when I say reachable, it still required shaping a shot.

When I asked him why that was his reaction, his reply was basically “this is an easy hole, I’ve seen so and so park way harder holes.”

I’ve been playing 10 plus years so maybe I’ve just had the opportunity to realize how bad I am, but has anyone else noticed people thinking it should be as easy as the pros make it look more recently, or has this just always been a thing?
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Old 06-26-2019, 11:51 PM
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I don't think it's a "watching the pros" thing, I think it's a "golf" thing. We all know we can birdie almost any hole, but we aren't consistent enough to do it all the time. Even if the odds are against you, knowing that you can do something and failing sucks. But that's golf. Some people get angry, others shake it off, but what it all comes down to is not being as consistent as we would like.

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Basically what the title says, has the coverage of the best of the best, warped some viewers expectations as to how they should perform? I played league with a guy today that was getting upset for not parking every reachable hole. And when I say reachable, it still required shaping a shot.

When I asked him why that was his reaction, his reply was basically “this is an easy hole, I’ve seen so and so park way harder holes.”

I’ve been playing 10 plus years so maybe I’ve just had the opportunity to realize how bad I am, but has anyone else noticed people thinking it should be as easy as the pros make it look more recently, or has this just always been a thing?
No in 2004 I was trying to do what others did on the same hole who were better. This was before I knew about the modern full foot over the other X-Step as it was not as widely known to players, as the info on the internet was not there nor was YouTube available or used for Disc Golf Info.

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Old 06-27-2019, 06:20 AM
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I think people get their expectations of what a certain disc should do and never really consider it is the pro making the disc fly. A lot of people are rushing out to get the Big Z Lunas after Paul parked a 450 foot hole with one. I imagine a lot of people are going to have a new putter they can throw 200-250 in premium plastic.

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I think people get their expectations of what a certain disc should do and never really consider it is the pro making the disc fly. A lot of people are rushing out to get the Big Z Lunas after Paul parked a 450 foot hole with one. I imagine a lot of people are going to have a new putter they can throw 200-250 in premium plastic.
Or a Disc they horded to sell for big bucks when Paul is touring as a Master at best if he does not stop to work more with Discraft to design and test discs as well as possibly be a Disc Golf Designer seeing as how Paul has plans to make a disc golf course as heard in a Johnny Disc Golf YouTube interview.

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Unless he's rocking a full Grip bag with identical setups to Paul, Eagle, etc...then I think you just played with a perfectionist (which is annoying). Nothing to do with the pro game or coverage.

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Basically what the title says, has the coverage of the best of the best, warped some viewers expectations as to how they should perform?
No, and I don't think this happens for any professional sport. I doubt people watched Wayne Gretzky and said "Hey why can't I get 1000 points in my beer league?"

Well, there may be exceptions - the grandiose delusions some people have are very strong.
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:14 AM
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Unless he's rocking a full Grip bag with identical setups to Paul, Eagle, etc...then I think you just played with a perfectionist (which is annoying). Nothing to do with the pro game or coverage.
I have seen this phenomenon a lot more now too, people buying every new special run, which is cool, even if maybe they would be better off with a simpler and beginner oriented bag.

This particular person was definitely emulating the pros in my opinion though. Which again, no judgement, you do you kinda mentality.

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Old 06-27-2019, 01:12 PM
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Basically what the title says, has the coverage of the best of the best, warped some viewers expectations as to how they should perform? I played league with a guy today that was getting upset for not parking every reachable hole. And when I say reachable, it still required shaping a shot.

When I asked him why that was his reaction, his reply was basically “this is an easy hole, I’ve seen so and so park way harder holes.”

I’ve been playing 10 plus years so maybe I’ve just had the opportunity to realize how bad I am, but has anyone else noticed people thinking it should be as easy as the pros make it look more recently, or has this just always been a thing?
Always been a thing. Some people are just that way. I was already pretty good at throwing discs when I got into playing golf so the game came easier to me than it did to some of my friends. One guy used to get madder and madder as a round went on so I asked him once why. He said, "Because I can't do this as good as YOU!"
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I don't think it's a "watching the pros" thing, I think it's a "golf" thing. We all know we can birdie almost any hole, but we aren't consistent enough to do it all the time. Even if the odds are against you, knowing that you can do something and failing sucks. But that's golf. Some people get angry, others shake it off, but what it all comes down to is not being as consistent as we would like.
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I think people get their expectations of what a certain disc should do and never really consider it is the pro making the disc fly. A lot of people are rushing out to get the Big Z Lunas after Paul parked a 450 foot hole with one. I imagine a lot of people are going to have a new putter they can throw 200-250 in premium plastic.
Only true for inexperienced players.
Not true of players who understand their game.

There's a reason the top touring Pros are still quite a bit better (day in and day out) most local area Pros and top AM 1 players. The expectation that anyone else can do what they do, as consistently as they do it, is deluded.

That said, it's worth striving for.

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