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Old 08-20-2019, 10:56 AM
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Don't remember ever hearing "padded" and "OB" in the same sentence.
Consider that players throwing 1000 rated rounds at Eureka averaged about 58 actual throws plus 6 strokes of OB boosting their total score versus players on HB Gold actually making 64 throws with maybe 0.2 penalty boost (no UDisc data but also minimal OB) in their 1000 rated round. Peppering a typically temp course with OB design elements with 1 and up to 2-throw equivalent penalties has become a popular way to boost scoring and SSA on tour courses without actually increasing the number of throws required. Thus, the term "penalty padding."
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:24 PM
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Scores went up sometime last night.

I played BB on Monday morning and it was amazing. I like the the new flow with a few holes that got changed up. I will miss old hole 8 though.
I played it Monday as well, fantastic weather and a really fantastic course. If blueberry were used instead of Woodlands it could have been a sort of remake of 2007 worlds. The one new hole I think is an excellent addition.
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Old 08-20-2019, 01:08 PM
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Blueberry has some additional changes underway with three new holes being developed. The first half of old 8 will be reversed and descend into a large previously unused area with par 4 and par 5 pin placements like old 8. Looking at combining 18 tee to 1 basket as new 18. Sounds like signature hole 2 may become Hole 1 in the new flow.

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Old 08-20-2019, 03:12 PM
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Don't remember ever hearing "padded" and "OB" in the same sentence.
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Consider that players throwing 1000 rated rounds at Eureka averaged about 58 actual throws plus 6 strokes of OB boosting their total score versus players on HB Gold actually making 64 throws with maybe 0.2 penalty boost (no UDisc data but also minimal OB) in their 1000 rated round. Peppering a typically temp course with OB design elements with 1 and up to 2-throw equivalent penalties has become a popular way to boost scoring and SSA on tour courses without actually increasing the number of throws required. Thus, the term "penalty padding."
Thanks for the clarification.
I understand the concept, it just struck me as a jarring juxtaposition.
Knowing I may be in the minority, I actually enjoy watching championship-level DG on a course like temp Eureka and Winthrop Gold and Memorial.

Here's the way I look at it (admittedly simplistic):
Woods disc golf, (like Northwoods, Maple Hill) means you have to worry most about the flight (trees, hanging branches, open lines).
Park disc golf, (like Temp Eureka, Winthrop Gold, Fountain Hills) means you have to worry most about the landing (wind, OB ropes, water, pavement).

Again, very simplistic, but generally true.
Personally, I enjoy the thought process that it takes to play each course in the way it demands.
Enjoy watching it and playing it.
I'm one of those people that enjoys playing park golf and woods golf.
They each have their place and I enjoy both, and maybe a slight nod to Park disc golf.

Pardon the thread drift.
I am excited for the resurrection of HH and hope to play those courses someday.

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Old 08-20-2019, 03:51 PM
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I had a ton of fun playing the HHO and camping with a bunch of friends. It was awesome to see that many people there and the place is looking great.

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Old 08-20-2019, 04:50 PM
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Thanks for the clarification.
I understand the concept, it just struck me as a jarring juxtaposition.
Knowing I may be in the minority, I actually enjoy watching championship-level DG on a course like temp Eureka and Winthrop Gold and Memorial.

Here's the way I look at it (admittedly simplistic):
Woods disc golf, (like Northwoods, Maple Hill) means you have to worry most about the flight (trees, hanging branches, open lines).
Park disc golf, (like Temp Eureka, Winthrop Gold, Fountain Hills) means you have to worry most about the landing (wind, OB ropes, water, pavement).
When I was getting into this sport 17 years ago, it was the FLIGHT of the discs that intrigued myself the most and was also the most gratifying. Now I do believe the ability to land your disc onto every surface is another wrinkle/skillset that is important but nothing tops the flight of the disc.

Being able to make a disc fly 300 feet straight and then get a late turn just when needed is a thing of beauty. Forcing a flexshot to perfectly snake through a tight fairway without touching a thing, again is marvelous. I could go on and on...

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Old 08-21-2019, 05:18 PM
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For those of you who played in the event and haven't written any course reviews, consider posting a new one or two or three if you feel comfortable doing so to help update conditions. Or, if you have an old review please consider updating it.

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Old 08-21-2019, 09:32 PM
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MM, Buzzflicker and I just finished playing 1-10 on Bear this evening. Awesome experience!

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Old 08-22-2019, 08:00 AM
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MM, Buzzflicker and I just finished playing 1-10 on Bear this evening. Awesome experience!
I'm planning on coming back Oct 3-5, with dreams of playing Bear. And I always wanted to go up there during fall colors.
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Old 08-22-2019, 01:17 PM
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I'm planning on coming back Oct 3-5, with dreams of playing Bear. And I always wanted to go up there during fall colors.
It should be in excellent shape by then. All the baskets are out now and all 18 should be either mowed, brush hogged or weed whipped by tonight. We're gonna try to play all 18 this evening.

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