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With all the different plastics and models of discs out there, I found myself spending a lot of cash on discs to find what I like.

My question is, do different plastics of the same model and same weight, fly the same. So will a 175 Champion Boss fly just like a 175 Star Boss?

I thought that the different plastics just changed the grip and durability, and price.
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:50 PM
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champion discs usually fly more stable than star, dx, and pro I think becuz the texture of the plastic doesn't cause as much wind resistance but im not not certain that is why they r more stable but champion and z are more stable than same mold in a different plastic
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:51 PM
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The simple answer to your question is: YES.

Different plastics have somewhat different flight characteristics, and while there are some generalities (e.g. Champ/Z has greater stability than base line), the differences can be much more significant in some molds than others.

Beyond that, it can get very complex because there are general rules that seem to hold up pretty well, but there are also a boatload of exceptions.

For example, FLX ESP Drones are more OS than Z Drones...

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Different plastics don't always come off the mold and settle into the same shape as another plastic int he same mold, this causes slight PLH (parting line height) changes and also sometimes the dome can be flatter or more poppy, this changes the flight quite a bit.

This is like a Proton Volt having 0 HSS and 3 LSS where as the Neutron Volt has -1 HSS and 2 LSS because the PLH is a little bit higher on the Proton version
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Well hell. That makes getting the right disc all that much tougher. I wonder why they don't explain that on the Discraft or Innova sites.
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Well hell. That makes getting the right disc all that much tougher. I wonder why they don't explain that on the Discraft or Innova sites.
They do explain it on both sites. Discraft even gives flight ratings for each of their discs, in each plastic, which AFAIK is the only company that does this.
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^ beat me to it by seconds...
Discraft actually shows different stability #'s on discs of the same mold in different plastic.
Innova does not.
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Well said, Bogey.
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They do explain it on both sites. Discraft even gives flight ratings for each of their discs, in each plastic, which AFAIK is the only company that does this.

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The simple answer to your question is: YES.

Different plastics have somewhat different flight characteristics, and while there are some generalities (e.g. Champ/Z has greater stability than base line), the differences can be much more significant in some molds than others.

Beyond that, it can get very complex because there are general rules that seem to hold up pretty well, but there are also a boatload of exceptions.

For example, FLX ESP Drones are more OS than Z Drones...
Agreed.
In General from most OS to least OS
Champion/Z
Star/ESP
Pro/X
DX/Pro D

As BogeyNoMore said that is subject to change though depending on the mold, dome & PLH. Also as previously stated some molds are just weird like the Drone. Also it should be noted that some Pro plastics tend to be less OS than DX at times depending on which type of Pro plastic it is.
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Old 08-17-2013, 06:14 PM
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plastic type is HUGE and matters.
I was going to post a thread asking people which plastic they thought performed/flew the best in general (not feel best).
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