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Old 09-02-2020, 12:48 PM
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C1X is 10-33 feet. Eagle McMahon for instance is 88%.

All of C1 is over 90% now.

Like I said anything lower the 90% would be an improvement.
Ah. My mistake there. I read c1x and my brain goes to less than 10 feet. I made a mistake. Carry on!
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Old 09-02-2020, 12:56 PM
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Ah. My mistake there. I read c1x and my brain goes to less than 10 feet. I made a mistake. Carry on!
I think 80% would even be reasonable for C1x for the top players. Nearly doubling the misses for Eagle McMahon for instance. He would theoretically be like 90%+ at 15 feet but then dropping down to say 60-65% at 33 feet. Now you are really rewarding upshots and park jobs, as well as rewarding the top putters.

I think getting the top players to 70% would be tough, probably not realistic, the basket would have to be shorter and really narrow, or no chains like discgolfconvert thinks is a good idea.
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Old 09-02-2020, 12:56 PM
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C1X is 10-33 feet. Eagle McMahon for instance is 88%.
So what?
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:00 PM
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So what?
That's what this discussion is about. How easy is too easy.
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:10 PM
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That's what this discussion is about. How easy is too easy.
For example....C1 in golf (5 ft). What is the made % of C1 in golf?

Did the work for you Jon Rahm is 94%.....too easy?

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Old 09-02-2020, 01:17 PM
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Maybe your club has a model for volunteer procurement and money raising that you would like to share. I know many here spend countless hours giving back to their local disc golf communities. Proven suggestions on how to improve these two very tough issues would be great.

Perhaps you could expound on your simple solution above to include the forgone cost of the labor and money?
We collect $50-$100 per week in league entries @ $1 per + some donate their winnings to the club. Before every PDGA event we have a fundraiser. When we really push for work days we can get 15-20 guys out to do work. If we need money badly we pass the plate and members usually respond.

Unless you overbuilt the courses relative to the number of players in your area, you should be able to get this done.
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:22 PM
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I think 80% would even be reasonable for C1x for the top players. Nearly doubling the misses for Eagle McMahon for instance. He would theoretically be like 90%+ at 15 feet but then dropping down to say 60-65% at 33 feet. Now you are really rewarding upshots and park jobs, as well as rewarding the top putters.

I think getting the top players to 70% would be tough, probably not realistic, the basket would have to be shorter and really narrow, or no chains like discgolfconvert thinks is a good idea.
You keep using one percentage as if all putts are made from there. That is not the case. Putts are made from every distance out to extreme jump-putt range. The ideal would be that 50% of all putts were made. (That would give us the most effective test of putting skill, statistically speaking.)

Without knowing the distribution of ranges from which putts are attempted (and the success rates at each distance), we cannot know whether we are above or below that ideal.

I could just as easily (and nonsensically) say that almost 90% of putts are missed from 100 feet, so any number of misses lower than 90% would be better, therefore we need larger baskets.

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Old 09-02-2020, 01:27 PM
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We collect $50-$100 per week in league entries @ $1 per + some donate their winnings to the club. Before every PDGA event we have a fundraiser. When we really push for work days we can get 15-20 guys out to do work. If we need money badly we pass the plate and members usually respond.

Unless you overbuilt the courses relative to the number of players in your area, you should be able to get this done.
I have a meeting next Wed. I will run this by our league board and membership. I will report back on the feedback to taking the chains off the baskets on all 198 holes we help support. Of course, we don't own these courses, so permission from the couple other area clubs would be crucial. How do you think this will go. :w all:

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Old 09-02-2020, 01:34 PM
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I think 80% would even be reasonable for C1x for the top players. Nearly doubling the misses for Eagle McMahon for instance.
ok...but what if Eagle is the worlds best putter, shouldn't he be allowed to dominate? How about the NBA's best free thrower, what's his percentage rate?
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:35 PM
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You keep using one percentage as if all putts are made from there. That is not the case. Putts are made from every distance out to extreme jump-putt range. The ideal would be that 50% of all putts were made. (That would give us the most effective test of putting skill, statistically speaking.)

Without knowing the distribution of ranges from which putts are attempted (and the success rates at each distance), we cannot know whether we are above or below that ideal.

I could just as easily (and nonsensically) say that almost 90% of putts are missed from 100 feet, so any number of misses lower than 90% would be better, therefore we need larger baskets.
When my course gets completed there will be large baskets for the beginner course, regular baskets for the medium course, and Chainless baskets for the long course. All players will tee from the same pads.
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