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Old 04-10-2019, 01:07 PM
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I am sad to report that, according to someone I trust, the surge is going/already OOP.

This sucks. I don't like the punisher and the kong is alright but tis no surge replacement.

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Glow ESPs just dropped for Ledgestone so maybe not?
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Old 04-10-2019, 02:32 PM
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I can't see the Surge going OOP. Not to call BS on you Fly_High but how...involved is your source?
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Old 04-10-2019, 02:51 PM
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I can't see the Surge going OOP. Not to call BS on you Fly_High but how...involved is your source?
He is a member of the Discraft family and a formally sponsored player.

I was heartbroken when he told me.

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Old 04-10-2019, 03:04 PM
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My two Swirls are slightly higher PLH than the four Zs I currently own (and all of the ESPs). Slight shoulder to flat top for both...pink/purple scaled 174.5 and blue scaled 176. Blue is slighter higher PLH than the pink/purple. Won't throw them until Friday unfortunately.

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Old 04-10-2019, 03:14 PM
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He is a member of the Discraft family and a formally sponsored player.

I was heartbroken when he told me.
Just asked a buddy of mine who used to be sponsored in the early 2000s by Discraft but still keeps in touch with some of the guys. He confirmed he heard similar things.

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Old 04-10-2019, 05:27 PM
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Now I'm glad I went with the Hurricane in my bag over the Surge. Used to throw the surge back in the day, I think my first 400+ drive was with a pre-Doss ESP Surge. I wonder if they think the Punisher is close enough to a Wraith to fill that slot?
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:37 PM
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If the surge does go oop, how does punisher compare to Kong. I have some lighter Kongs, and I like them, but I'm looking for something just tick more understable to pair with it.
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Old 04-10-2019, 10:04 PM
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If the surge does go oop, how does punisher compare to Kong. I have some lighter Kongs, and I like them, but I'm looking for something just tick more understable to pair with it.
OK, I've only thrown 1 Punisher and 1 Kong, but it was head to head (basically to see what the differences between the two were).

I found the Punisher to be a little less stable than the Kong, and glidier. The Punisher holds a flat line for a long time before fading. The Kong was quite a bit more overstable and wanted to fade out much sooner. Hard throws with the Punisher showed high speed turn. With the Kong I wasn't seeing any of that.

The Punisher was longer for me. The straighter flight equaled more distance. Speed-wise they're fairly similar. The Punisher has a shallower rim than the Kong.

If I had to pick one of the two I'd take the Punisher. I felt like it glided better and was easier to get distance out of. As a reference, I was getting the Punisher a bit over 400'. The Kong was shorter.

In summary, the Punisher is a good, less stable complement to the Kong.

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Old 04-10-2019, 10:56 PM
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OK, I've only thrown 1 Punisher and 1 Kong, but it was head to head (basically to see what the differences between the two were).

I found the Punisher to be a little less stable than the Kong, and glidier. The Punisher holds a flat line for a long time before fading. The Kong was quite a bit more overstable and wanted to fade out much sooner. Hard throws with the Punisher showed high speed turn. With the Kong I wasn't seeing any of that.

The Punisher was longer for me. The straighter flight equaled more distance. Speed-wise they're fairly similar. The Punisher has a shallower rim than the Kong.

If I had to pick one of the two I'd take the Punisher. I felt like it glided better and was easier to get distance out of. As a reference, I was getting the Punisher a bit over 400'. The Kong was shorter.

In summary, the Punisher is a good, less stable complement to the Kong.
Thank you! I'm going to have to try one.
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Old 04-11-2019, 07:46 AM
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In summary, the Punisher is a good, less stable complement to the Kong.
My experience is similar.

I'd say the Punisher is the Kong for 'normal' arms.
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