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Old 09-13-2020, 10:49 PM
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It kind of stunk having the easier more open courses front-loaded this season. But we've had plenty of variety as a whole. Toboggan is nearly perfect when it comes to "open" courses that play tighter than they seem on film. Ideally more courses would have that best of both worlds. Overall I'm really happy with the mix of courses this year.
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Old 09-13-2020, 11:34 PM
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Toboggan is nearly perfect when it comes to "open" courses that play tighter than they seem on film. Ideally more courses would have that best of both worlds. Overall I'm really happy with the mix of courses this year.
This is going to sound a lot like homer bias, but I'm glad you see Toboggan that way. As wonderful as some of the coverage is, it doesn't always really convey how a course feels or plays.

I'm so familiar with Toboggan that I can tell where camera man was standing when I watch the coverage. Makes it impossible for me to get a feel for how someone who's unfamiliar with it, perceives it when watching video coverage.

But since that balance between distance accuracy seems obvious to you, I guess the video does a good job conveying that.

Simon and Eagle's comments during their practice round were quite revealing/interesting. The elevation was more extreme than they expected, and they didn't understand just how important placing your tee shots was... and I'm sure they've seen and heard about it before they got here for DGLO.

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Old 09-14-2020, 01:49 AM
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I haven’t watched much lately, but the first couple events of the season the LVC and whatever the one is in Arizona are pretty lame. Then we skipped the west coast swing that has places like DeLa and Milo, and went to the flat open Midwest courses. So part of it is just it hasn’t been a normal season.

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Old 09-15-2020, 09:08 AM
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DeLa is an amazing historic course, yet when they go there they have most of the tournament on that godawful ball golf course. Horrible IMO. Keep DG in the woods please.
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:52 AM
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The original "you wouldn't want this to be your home course" design is Winthrop Gold and so far as Pro events go you see the influence on those courses, but for practical day-to-day play course those design elements are not super common. It's more of the influence those things have on tournament set-ups and the need to "trick out" a course for a C tier that confuses me.

In 2010 GDS was paid to design our local course (Lion's Club DGC) and the point of the design was for it to be a tournament design. It's supposed to be a ready-to-go B tier course, and really it IS a ready-to-go B tier course. 950-rated guys throw at best mid-50's rounds on it when it's used as-is.

It's almost never used as-is, though.

There is always this need to move holes around and add some "tricked out" element to the course for a C-tier. It doesn't need it; the course is tournament-ready. Put the baskets in the all-long positions and you are done. The regular holes were designed by a guy who installed dozens of courses. The "tricked out" holes are designed by local guys going "I know, lets make everybody try to hit this 20 foot wide strip of a fairway on a 600' hole." They are never an improvement.

People seem to like 600' holes with a 20' wide strip of mowed grass between a pond and deep shule, though. When we played it I thought it was stupid, but people still talk about it and want to set it up so they can throw it again so what do I know?

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Old 09-15-2020, 02:26 PM
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what do I know?
A lot more than most.
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Old 09-15-2020, 02:42 PM
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DeLa is an amazing historic course, yet when they go there they have most of the tournament on that godawful ball golf course. Horrible IMO. Keep DG in the woods please.
Only 1 of 3 rounds is at the golf course.

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Old 09-15-2020, 03:23 PM
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Keep DG in the woods please.
Half woods, half open.

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Old 09-15-2020, 04:13 PM
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I like when courses are a good mixture of things.... a few easier holes to give some birdie attempts.... longer par three or fours that make you throw consecutive good shots to make par.... some risk reward type holes where you can decide if its best to play it safe or not... some open drives... some tight drives...

Location and topography can play a part of course, but a good designer should be able to incorporate those things just about anywhere...

(I'm fine with no long carries over water for the most part.... discs are just too expensive to possibly lose that way for a lot of us... golf balls are cheap in comparison)

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Old 09-16-2020, 07:43 AM
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Seems easy enough to vote with viewership. There is tons of coverage out there these days. Just cherry pick where you toss the views. I love watching wooded golf. So I typically watch a lot of the local Central Coast Disc Golf stuff and a lot of North Carolina footage. I don't bother with Ledgestone or the hyzer olympics.
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