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Old 11-07-2017, 04:53 PM
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I think the Wrath may disagree
Considering I own 6 wraths and I know the disc well ....no



Wraith is 11/5/-1/3 by innova numbers and is fairly wide rimmed

Wrath is more 10/4/0/2.5 its not as wide rimmed, its flat and doesn't glide or S shape much.

Some websites put numbers closer than they really are, I have a Wraith and a Wrath and the only thing similar is they are a stable driver.

If you get a 165-170 Wrath it will show more turn and get more of a 'Wraith-like' flight, but its not close enough to say its the MVP's Wraith. My max weight Neutron Trace is closer in flight and feel of a Wraith.

The Wrath is closer to an Innova Thunderbird than anything (in my opinion) just a tick faster and less glide.

If you had to choose only from MVP or Axiom, I suppose a beat Telsa or a lighter/beat Wrath would be fairly close to a Wraith flight. But I stick to my initial response
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:18 PM
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Are you forgetting about the defy? Like a good old KC star wraith with the flatter tops. Used to find xouts/f2s at PIAS. Defy for sure fills that "good" wraith spot while not being as OS as photon in same plastics.
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:34 PM
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Nice trolling job by MVP... compass points lol.

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Old 11-07-2017, 07:38 PM
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Are you forgetting about the defy? Like a good old KC star wraith with the flatter tops. Used to find xouts/f2s at PIAS. Defy for sure fills that "good" wraith spot while not being as OS as photon in same plastics.
What are you talking about? The defy is flippy, and a star wraith is perfectly slightly OS.
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Old 11-07-2017, 11:38 PM
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What are you talking about? The defy is flippy, and a star wraith is perfectly slightly OS.
Idk what kinda roids you're on if your slinging a fresh defy to be flippy... then again it may not fly right for ya, it isn't a volt

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Old 11-08-2017, 08:52 AM
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Plasma Mayhem?.... lol.

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Old 11-08-2017, 09:47 AM
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What are you talking about? The defy is flippy, and a star wraith is perfectly slightly OS.
OK, even though there is much variation in discs from just about everyone, this is just wrong. The Defy is very overstable. Axiom really should not have released it, or at least changed the description of it. I get a decent bit of turn even from fresh Wraiths. I've thrown my Defy a bit, run it through the dryer, hand tuned it and thrown it into a brick wall. Zero turn and the fade begins at about the same time as a Predator.

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Old 11-08-2017, 10:05 AM
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Agree, DEFY is like 12/4/0/3 when new (and heavy) and break in to 12/4/-0.5/2 when worn or lighter - I have a 167g DEFY that almost turns hahahaha, again to say its comparable to a Wraith...? ? Nah....not even close, like saying a Firebird is close to a Teebird

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Old 11-08-2017, 11:16 AM
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Plasma Mayhem?.... lol.
I will probably try it. My Neutron is flat unlike a lot I've seen and a little disappointing.
 

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Old 11-08-2017, 12:33 PM
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I will probably try it. My Neutron is flat unlike a lot I've seen and a little disappointing.
Flat Mayhem? really? Nice I'd like to see it. I stocked up when they came out so I have 5 mayhems and they are all identical, which is nice
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