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Old 03-03-2019, 11:17 PM
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I find Destroyers to be great utility discs and not just for somebody’s distance driver. For example, if I need something to skip laterally a county over, I’ll grab a Destroyer and let it do its thing. However, I must confess of being part of the crowd that thinks the majority of people don’t benefit from tossing anything over speed 9 or an understable speed 10.

But to each their own, if somebody wants to bag a Destroyer, then more power to them.
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Old 03-04-2019, 10:37 AM
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Anybody try out the new echo destroyers yet?
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Old 03-04-2019, 11:09 AM
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I find Destroyers to be great utility discs and not just for somebody’s distance driver. For example, if I need something to skip laterally a county over, I’ll grab a Destroyer and let it do its thing. However, I must confess of being part of the crowd that thinks the majority of people don’t benefit from tossing anything over speed 9 or an understable speed 10.

But to each their own, if somebody wants to bag a Destroyer, then more power to them.
Once you get near 400' you start seeing the benefits of Destroyers vs. stuff like Orcs. Anything less than 350' and you probably won't even flatten a Destroyer out at all.

Destroyers definitely aren't for everyone. In fact, they're probably not for most people. That doesn't stop them from being the #1 selling disc on the market though.

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Old 03-04-2019, 11:29 AM
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Once you get near 400' you start seeing the benefits of Destroyers vs. stuff like Orcs. Anything less than 350' and you probably won't even flatten a Destroyer out at all.

Destroyers definitely aren't for everyone. In fact, they're probably not for most people. That doesn't stop them from being the #1 selling disc on the market though.
People also ignore how destroyers in different plastics can be much more workable. I love my Gstar one, it gets good turn and fades back at the very end of the flight.

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Old 03-04-2019, 11:34 AM
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People also ignore how destroyers in different plastics can be much more workable. I love my Gstar one, it gets good turn and fades back at the very end of the flight.
I agree. You get guys buying star Destroyers who can't throw over 300'. At 300' you probably shouldn't throw ANY Destroyer, but stars are way beefier than G*, pro, or DX.

Makes you wonder how many guys bought star Destroyers merely because Paul McBeth threw them. Its like guys get tunnel vision and don't even realize that Destroyers come in every plastic available.
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Old 03-04-2019, 11:50 AM
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Anybody try out the new echo destroyers yet?
Yes. They go real far. Domey with low PLH based on the ones I have from Disc Golf Values.

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Old 03-04-2019, 12:46 PM
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Once you get near 400' you start seeing the benefits of Destroyers vs. stuff like Orcs. Anything less than 350' and you probably won't even flatten a Destroyer out at all.

Destroyers definitely aren't for everyone. In fact, they're probably not for most people. That doesn't stop them from being the #1 selling disc on the market though.
Completely agree, with the issue being most people can’t get to 400’. Other than myself, I personally only know one or two other people who can grab a driver speed 10 or above and get it to 400’+. I do, however, live in an area where disc golf is barely making it to.

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Old 03-04-2019, 02:21 PM
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The way marketing/consumer sales typically works is- if it something that people really don't need it will sell:

-fast food, chips, pepsi makes corporations billions. fruit and vegetables certainly less..

-fast stable drivers sell ie destroyer, firebird. stable midranges certainly less..
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Old 03-04-2019, 10:30 PM
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Anybody try out the new echo destroyers yet?
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=132285

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Yes. They go real far. Domey with low PLH based on the ones I have from Disc Golf Values.
I love the new echo star destroyers. I have one i've been throwing for a couple of months and it was very straight right out of the box but still had that magical straight stable destroyer extra distance.

The new echo star destroyers have kicked out max weight champ shrykes from my bag for now (I love the champ shryke though so I'll keep my stash for future use).

They are typical newer echo star destroyers though and I know that one won't last a whole season. I've already put in a fresh echo star from disc golf values and begun a cycle.

I really hope these aren't super limited run (which they kind of appear to be), they are actually releasing them in small batches (just this morning there was around 10-15 available but now they are sold out). either way I'm happy echo star destroyers aren't totally extinct and are actually back albeit in limited release.

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People also ignore how destroyers in different plastics can be much more workable. I love my Gstar one, it gets good turn and fades back at the very end of the flight.
case in point the new disc golf value echo star release are great workable destroyers. I've had some great success in getting old school beat in hyzerflip to s curve flights even in moderate wind with these guys. when its calm you can get those old school *D/first run/proto flights where it almost acts like an overstable tern of mega distance hyzerflip to S-curve flights.

I love G-Star destroyers but for some reason also avoid buying them even though I've had really good experiences with them especially for those max distance S curve flights but more importantly the hyzerflip to flat straight flights in tighter fairways.
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Old 03-04-2019, 10:45 PM
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Sounds like some folks have no business throwing a Destroyer no matter the run.
that might be a bit unfair. for those who can't handle a beefy star destroyer you can use it for utility shots like a firebird.

look at the PD2 mold that eagle and simon throw... thats a ridiculously overstable disc that would normally be stupid for mortals to throw, but can be a great utility disc for a lot of golf lines.


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I agree. You get guys buying star Destroyers who can't throw over 300'. At 300' you probably shouldn't throw ANY Destroyer, but stars are way beefier than G*, pro, or DX.

Makes you wonder how many guys bought star Destroyers merely because Paul McBeth threw them. Its like guys get tunnel vision and don't even realize that Destroyers come in every plastic available.
i remember a group of older (not really older but now reaching 40's) sponsored players (The Frizzaks) back where I learned how to play in Connecticut who actually built up their distance throwing overstable champ firebirds for field work.

i know there's a lot of issues that could be had from doing that but thats the way they learned and built up their arms for it and its weird because you end up seeing that by learning how to throw distance with such overstable discs in practice they also learned how to throw distance with flippy stuff like beat in rocs/comets/teebirds too. so depending on the conditions they learned the disc angles and throwing planes to throw far wether it be with a flippy leopard or a meathook PD2.

it is kind of impressive to see them just ask what the disc does "what is this? a PD2? overstable? a speed 12 firebird?" and then proceed to throw 400ft with it then quickly throw something flippy like a super beat in 12x teebird just as far.

Disclaimer: they all threw 95% backhand as what most pros did back in the mid-late 90's would do.
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