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Old 09-18-2019, 05:51 PM
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During pre-registration/throughout a tournament, PDGA website had a player in one division. After the tournament finished, TD moved that player down to another division (played same layout). Hypothetically, is that allowed if they are within that divisions ranking? What about if they are too highly ranked, would that be caught when the results are verified?
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:42 PM
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During pre-registration/throughout a tournament, PDGA website had a player in one division. After the tournament finished, TD moved that player down to another division (played same layout). Hypothetically, is that allowed if they are within that divisions ranking? What about if they are too highly ranked, would that be caught when the results are verified?
TDs can close a division prior to play beginning if there are not a minimum number of competitors, but that also requires informing affected player. If a player is competing in an event in one division, that is where they should remain.

The only instance in which a TD can legally move a player after play has begun is if it is discovered that the player is in a division for which they are not eligible. If that is the case, and a division for which they are eligible has played the same course/layout, the TD has the option of moving the player to that division. That's only if they're feeling generous and don't disqualify the player outright because it's the player's responsibility what division they play (Competition Manual 2.01.B & C).

I don't think it's allowed for a TD to move a player down a level in any circumstance. Either the player is too highly rated for a lower division and should be moved higher, or they're ineligible for an age-protected division and have to be moved out (MA40 to MA1, for example).
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Old 09-18-2019, 07:02 PM
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The only instance in which a TD can legally move a player after play has begun is if it is discovered that the player is in a division for which they are not eligible. If that is the case, and a division for which they are eligible has played the same course/layout, the TD has the option of moving the player to that division. That's only if they're feeling generous and don't disqualify the player outright because it's the player's responsibility what division they play (Competition Manual 2.01.B & C).

I don't think it's allowed for a TD to move a player down a level in any circumstance. Either the player is too highly rated for a lower division and should be moved higher, or they're ineligible for an age-protected division and have to be moved out (MA40 to MA1, for example).
I agree with this. We've had to move players up to a higher division because we discovered they weren't eligible for the division they registered for before, but I can't think of any legitimate reason why a player would be moved down a division after the event had started, especially after the event was actually over. :P
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:33 PM
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Thanks! That's basically as I thought. Not sure if the player knew they'd be moved into a division they're ineligible (as up until results posted all appearances were playing in a correct division), that's partially why I was interested in if anyone besides the TD would catch the error (as the TD themself moved them, they won't DQ them). Don't want the player to be penalized.
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If a move were to be made, perhaps an option would be to move everyone up to this player's division? Then then everyone earns even more points. I would only do this if everyone in the lower division agreed though.
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Could be the player registered for 1 division and decided to move down the morning of the event, informed the TD prior to start of play and the PDGA tourney page was not updated till the event was submitted. The TD may have even put in scores as the wrong division along the way then moved the player after.

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Could be the player registered for 1 division and decided to move down the morning of the event, informed the TD prior to start of play and the PDGA tourney page was not updated till the event was submitted. The TD may have even put in scores as the wrong division along the way then moved the player after.
That was my guess as well as it happens at tournaments from time to time. Maybe they wanted to play up a level initially and saw a small field and opted to drop down one division in which they were still eligible for. Updating the PDGA is not a top priority early in the morning and can be done later or even after the event is completed. Priority is just getting the board correct, the player meeting done and sending folks out to their hole assignments.
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