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If I’m missing the “is McBeth having the best year ever?” debate thread delete this and point me to it.

Otherwise what are we waiting for?
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:30 PM
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https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=134514

Not sure it's a debate thread but....
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Well that thread has turned into a debate about what player and round ratings are/aren't/"should" be.

But I feel that the "best year" conversation may warrant its own thread.

By this point in 2015, P McB had racked up 16 wins (not counting Presidents Cup) and had zero tournament finishes outside the top 3.

2019: "only" 13 wins so far, and three non-podium finishes. So maybe not quite up to the 2015 standard, but that's also learning entirely new molds this year.

Also, in terms of disc sales, McBeth is probably having the best year ever by an order of magnitude.

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I don't think the mold learning thing is of relevance. How could he have the highest rating if he would suffer from mold learning? It's rather that the competitors are stronger now than 2015.

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Old 09-20-2019, 09:18 AM
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I think you could attribute the first couple events to mold learning. You can't build the trust you need in a disc during clutch moments without throwing a disc in those clutch moments. Plus it's pretty obvious looking back that he did not like the proto Luna plastic.
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I think you could attribute the first couple events to mold learning. You can't build the trust you need in a disc during clutch moments without throwing a disc in those clutch moments. Plus it's pretty obvious looking back that he did not like the proto Luna plastic.
When you say build trust in a disc, do you mean a specific disc or a specific mold? Because McBeth doesn't really rely on specific discs. By which I mean he may be throwing a Force in every tournament but it's not necessarily the same Force each time. He's either cycling or pulling brand new discs every few tournaments. As long as he trusts that one Force (or Buzzz or Luna or Raptor, etc) is going to be the same as the last one he used, there's not really a long acclimation process necessary.

That said, it seemed early in the year, his struggles were in putting. He wasn't as consistent from 20-40 feet in the early tournaments as he appears to be of late. That could be finding the right putter (I think he was using Roaches early on in addition to the proto Lunas), but probably just as much about dialing in his stroke. I think he treats his putters no differently than drivers and mids...he's not using the same ones week in and week out.

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Can we merge all of the McBeth discussion threads into one large thread? There's like 4-5 at this point.

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Well that thread has turned into a debate about what player and round ratings are/aren't/"should" be.

But I feel that the "best year" conversation may warrant its own thread.

By this point in 2015, P McB had racked up 16 wins (not counting Presidents Cup) and had zero tournament finishes outside the top 3.

2019: "only" 13 wins so far, and three non-podium finishes. So maybe not quite up to the 2015 standard, but that's also learning entirely new molds this year.

Also, in terms of disc sales, McBeth is probably having the best year ever by an order of magnitude.
I think it is important to consider the added depth of competition in 2019 versus 2015 when comparing each season.
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Hard to top this...

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I don't think the mold learning thing is of relevance. How could he have the highest rating if he would suffer from mold learning? It's rather that the competitors are stronger now than 2015.
True, players are more but also the courses are tougher then in 2015, a bunch of the Pro Tour events had specific holes made just slightly harder by pushing the basket location moved or the tee pad moved to make the hole harder. Same on the PDGA National Tour as well. Weather also played a factor at at least two events, one with Rain at De Lavega and dangerous winds at GBO.

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