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Old 05-19-2012, 10:24 AM
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Yes...They are out there. Mine are a light/bleached out red.
I have a couple that are white and one that's a normal red, perhaps yours was a transition between those.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:32 AM
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KC pds. Gonna need to see that stamp
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Old 05-19-2012, 05:18 PM
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I have one of the CFR Big D pds and I love it, but its hard to find backups for it. How would the new 12x with the kenny stamp compare? Ive been thinking of trying those. I mainly use it for spike hyzers and utility shots.
What i meant was the new 12x firebirds with the kenny stamp
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Old 05-19-2012, 06:35 PM
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I toss all my pds as close to 165g as possible and I use the P for understable shots, the S for more neutral shots and the C for overstable.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:14 PM
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What i meant was the new 12x firebirds with the kenny stamp
Unless you're maxing out at like 200' there wouldn't really be a comparison between a pd and a 12x firebird.

If utility/spike hyzer is the role you're looking to fill firebird would be my choice.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:50 PM
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Unless you're maxing out at like 200' there wouldn't really be a comparison between a pd and a 12x firebird.

If utility/spike hyzer is the role you're looking to fill firebird would be my choice.
Im talking about the CFR Big D pds which are much more overstable than the production run C PDs. They are super flat and overstable and dont fly like a true pd
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:57 PM
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I have 1 Big D CFR PD in my bag, it is an overstable pig. Dont use it unless there is wind or I need it to turn early. I have a couple of the patent numbered ones that are as overstable as the Big D PD's. When I traded for them I thought they were going to be regular C Line PD's. I was really excited when they showed up.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:59 PM
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Im talking about the CFR Big D pds which are much more overstable than the production run C PDs. They are super flat and overstable and dont fly like a true pd
Ah I see. I've only thrown production run C's and S's. Well just based on availability I'd go with 12x's. Being able to pick up a replacement/backup the day you need it is priceless
Especially for something simple like a utility disc, most of us already carry enough hard to replace drivers lol.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:02 PM
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I have 1 Big D CFR PD in my bag, it is an overstable pig. Dont use it unless there is wind or I need it to turn early. I have a couple of the patent numbered ones that are as overstable as the Big D PD's. When I traded for them I thought they were going to be regular C Line PD's. I was really excited when they showed up.
What do these look like? All the production ones ive seen fly like teebirds. same production stamp? Id love to have all my driving duties to one mold
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That's impressive. For comparison, what were you hitting pre-PD? I am just trying to decide if my low-powered arm should venture into this territory...
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For what it's worth, the P-PD is as manageable as my slower discs, but has a much higher distance potential. . .
What Phenn says is exactly my experience. Pre-PD, I was lucky to hit 320 each time. I still only hit about 320-40 with my S-PD, but my P-PD SAILS... A good comparison would be my ESP Avenger which I no longer use (thank the S-PD). Besides having to really put some umph into it to get that 320 mark, it wasn't very reliable. I find the PD is much more forgiving of nose angle issues...perhaps the most forgiving for a slightly overstable disc of its speed range.

I bought a DX teebird recently to try them out again, but I ended up pulling them because I really don't need a disc between my Stalkers and PDs...the PD powers down so well and has a very similar flight.
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