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Old 09-27-2017, 09:43 AM
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when this thread reaches 200 replies i'll start kneeling for women in disc golf to be treated equal to men disc golfers
I've been kneeling for women for many many years.
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Old 09-27-2017, 09:46 AM
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When you stop condescending women, you begin to change the culture and start fixing those issues.
Theory? Fact? Conjecture? Wishful thinking?

Can you show me a culture where this holds true?


How about: When you stop condescending women, you begin to change the culture and women start condescending men.
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Old 09-27-2017, 07:51 PM
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How about:

Don't be an azzhole, and if someone else is, ignore them.

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Old 09-28-2017, 12:04 AM
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I have watched Elaine haul trees, brush and vines on several occasions while building a course. Guess that doesn't count for signature discs. No Biggee. She's probably a bigger person than anyone at Discraft anyway.
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Old 09-28-2017, 03:19 PM
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Theory? Fact? Conjecture? Wishful thinking?

Can you show me a culture where this holds true?


How about: When you stop condescending women, you begin to change the culture and women start condescending men.
This happens everywhere. Among the cultures of large societies to smaller social groups, like corporations who promote a corporate culture. Language is adopted to evoke a certain sentiment, which slowly brings change.

Let's suppose nearly everyone started calling or referring to you as "****-for-brains" (perhaps this already happens to some degree, but imagine this was a new development for you). From your immediate circle to complete strangers: "****-for-brains" day in and day out. You would start to lose respect from peers, people would assume you had the name for a reason and opportunities would pass you up, and you might even lose a sense of self worth. Maybe you'd adopt it as a nickname, to take the edge off the insult? That's not far fetched is it, ****-for-brains?

Sociologists have this term reappropriation, when a culture does just that: yankee, redneck, queer, n****r, etc. Point is, words have power.

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Old 09-28-2017, 04:02 PM
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Tim is indeed a very strong regional force, a good ambassador, making a positive impact on the game in the backyard of Discraft. Players in this area would likely see the disc as just reward for what he does.
I'll second this, Tim is a really good dude. When he wasn't kicking my butt at league this year he was cool enough to sign a disc for me. That's a slightly gummier than usual Z Zone below.



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Old 09-28-2017, 04:24 PM
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How about: When you stop condescending women, you begin to change the culture and women start condescending men.
Do you genuinely believe we've passed that threshold or is this just what is theoretically possible in some distant future?
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Old 09-28-2017, 10:08 PM
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This happens everywhere...
So, no specific documented instance? Got it.
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Old 09-28-2017, 10:16 PM
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Do you genuinely believe we've passed that threshold or is this just what is theoretically possible in some distant future?
No, I don't believe we've passed any threshold, I just believe the armchair sociologists on the internet have a hard time justifying their conjecture. There's a lot of wishful and wistful thinking. Along with conclusion jumping.

Nobody on this forum knows exactly what happened at Discraft. Unless some of the parties involved frequent the forum.

Now, there's a chance I might be wrong, someone here could have a highly developed sense of ESP with the ability to read Elaine Kings and upper management at Discraft minds. That would be pretty cool.

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^ Yeah, I'll agree to that. We don't know what happened at Discraft and speculation is likely incorrect to an unknown degree. At the same time, I think it is reasonable to affirm the reality of sexism in our current environment.

Sexism pretty clearly formed the basis for this thread and people are understandably reacting to that.

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