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Hi,
I am stuck at 200-250 and it does not matter which disc i use. The drivers might fly 200-270.
What i am doing wrong. Added video link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRCn9h7FOQI
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Old 03-15-2020, 04:55 AM
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Need to shift to the front leg like a shifty running back getting ready to change direction/juke and let go of your arm. I would scrap the x-step and work on shifting back and forth from one leg to the other leg and then swinging.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=133319
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=119328


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Old 03-17-2020, 03:34 AM
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Hi, again.
I tried to throw from a standstill and the throws were pretty good if the follow-through was good.
Does this look better?
https://youtu.be/j66yHxZoh6g
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Might work for rollers and nose up air bounces, but not most air shots launched upward with nose down. You need to check your grip and alignment.
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...57#post3440757

You are leaning way back and tipping your upper body back and forth over your lower body.
Need to get in more forward tilted athletic position/balance and shift the lower body back and forth underneath the upper body. This should feel very different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZq8M8vU8ZU#2m10s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxnhM5amro0#t=23s


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Today tried to throw like in the Hershyzer video - https://youtu.be/yGPbBMqsqOQ
X-step video https://youtu.be/cg3GhZcAjA4
Today's throws felt good and some went quite far, but nothing to be excited about.
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Somewhat better. You need to work more from your front leg instead of your rear leg. You can accelerate faster in a standstill with a quick compact 1-2" shift, than your x-step or long 1 step stride which has no acceleration into the plant - you are moving all one speed and actually slowing acceleration down going into the plant.

Would recommend throwing putters/mids, no drivers. Your disc is accelerating forward well before you plant, need to let your arm go and extend going into plant like door frame drills.





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Hi again,
Thanks, Sidewinder22 for your help!
I went to the stadium today and putters went quite far and straight, so I thought to post another video for checking. I think my footwork and follow-through are bad and I need to work on those. Loosened the grip at the beginning and I think that helped too.
https://youtu.be/mLhJ67gZu4M
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You need to stay looking at the target as long as possible until just before the plant. You turn away way too early/wrong leg and stepping backwards instead of laterally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwuSt45Lfp4#t=3m32s

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hi,

what i noticed...you don't reach fully back, when running up. stand still it looks kind of ok, but theres a balance problem...

Arm never straight in front of you during reachback, you start to pull to early, hips too open, because of the front foot angle, left arm hinders a quick turn (ice skating), turning on the toes during follow through will hurt your knee long term. the x-step looks off time, means to big x-step, too small last step to plant. pace rhythm.


When the front foot toes just touching the ground, that should be the peak of your reachback. (peak of whip with the left arm)
And when the front foot is fully 90 to the target line planted, which is the time it takes from whip peak your left arm to load the shoulder-90-spring and then to move the same arm in the other dircetion to produce momentum.

THEN you have to start pulling, whilst droping/turning your back knee and slightly lifting the back foot (gives also momentum and because of that momentum it LOCKS your hips!)!

try to engage your left arm to make a whip to get your shoulder in a 90-from-trajectory-line position. and right after that use that arm to give momentum towards the target.

yet you still look straight in front of you and wait for your shoulder to pick your head up in the follow through to watch the beautiful flight pattern you just generated.



its a damn lot to think about... and if I do during the throw it sucks even more... but when it clicks once, you will just get used to it and it feels natural...

just remember to stay on your toes, plant foot touches ground with toes, but then rolls over the side to your heal. thats nothing to think about, if you just hit with your toes first around 90!

its a matter of timing, trusting your line and rhythm in the run up.
for the right rhythm watch this video.



in the picture i drew some angles to remember...



in theory its so easy...
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